Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #59111
From: Luke Alcorn <lalcorn@natca.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Correction on IFR/VFR flight plans
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:30:52 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
If you still want to activate a Vfr flight plan you would also need to file a Vfr flight plan and then open and close it with flight service. If you are on flight following there is really no reason to also do a Vfr flight plan. If you go down the search and rescue timeline is much better on flight following than FSS waiting until you are 30 minutes overdue at your destination and then they start looking. 

Luke Alcorn

On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:13 AM, "Danny Miller" <danny.miller@verizon.net> wrote:

Luke,

If I use this procedure, do I still have to open my flight plan with the FSS or is automatically opened in the same manner as an IFR flight plan?

 

Danny Miller

N 38° 43' 25.7"

W 77° 30' 38.6"

 

From: lalcorn@natca.net [mailto:lalcorn@natca.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:48 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Correction on IFR/VFR flight plans

 

I miss spoke on my previous post about how to file the VFR flight plan to get it in the system 100% of the time.  If you use DUATS/DUAT, you will need to select IFR domestic or ICAO flight plan.  Then enter the altitude as VFR/075  or what ever your cruise altitude will be.  VFR/115 VFR/165  etc.  By selecting the IFR flight plan, that will send it to the center computer which will put it in the IFR system.  If you select VFR flight plan, it sends it to FSS's computer, which will not enter it in the centers computer.  When ever you file the flight plan, the message DUATS sends back will tell you where it went when it filled it.  The center computers names all start with a Z, i.e. ZJX is jacksonville center, ZTL is atlanta center, ZFW is fort worth center, etc.  If you see the message, filled with MCN or GNV, that means the flight plan was filled as a VFR only and went into the FSS computer, which does not send the flight plan into the ATC system.  I tried this with fltplan.com and it will not let you select a VFR altitude for an IFR flight plan, so I do not know if it can be done through that site, but I don't use fltplan.com so I can not be sure.

I have tested this at work and it works great every time.  It also puts a flight plan sitting in our departure list, so when you call ATC up for flight following, we already have all of your information.

 

Luke Alcorn
NATCA ZJX Safety Rep

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