X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:41:20 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5063905 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:41:09 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.66; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=L4dh1ftKaPOe/L2zQUELYBC5DKTkw/GyD8A5zQjDO40KcCFA/zMq3DRswjvuDSJo; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [64.223.85.75] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1QljkH-0005Bc-Th for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:40:34 -0400 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-155-527668138 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Sound insulation for Lancair 4p X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:40:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <27232F2E-D714-49EE-9CB3-DB0BFFC9845A@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940be4526fedbc36d927f3365823d193fa3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.223.85.75 --Apple-Mail-155-527668138 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I think there is a lot of disinformation out there. I make it 20 - 30 = lbs to do it Dan Newland's way depending on how aggressive you want to = be. That's less than an arctic air unit. You can't make the problem = go away. You probably can't make it as good as a Velocity. But you = can make it noticeably better. You just have to decide how you want = to spend the weight. On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:47 AM, John Hafen wrote: > Ron: >=20 > The IVP screams like hell in the assent. It's a good sound. Power. = Climb. Gross inefficiency. Major fuel burn. The all American way. >=20 > It chills out in cruse. >=20 > And gets even more quiet in the descent. >=20 > But the down side / disadvantage of all that quiet, is that you are = not burning hardly any dinosaur juice at all. Which, depending on your = political persuasion, is either good news or bad news.=20 >=20 > Without adding more weight than your already overly heavy IVP can = stand, you cannot quiet the IVP enough for climb-out. >=20 > Give up. Kind of like being married. You just deal with it. >=20 > You can't make your bird heavy enough and quiet enough to make it = quiet on climb-out. You don't want to be that heavy. >=20 > It is a noisy frigging airplane. Again, kind of like being married. = It's just noisy. Consider an investment in Noise Canceling Headset = technology (I wear one around the house). Way cheaper than making the = airplane quiet. >=20 > John Hafen > IVP N413AJ 300+ hours > j.hafen@comcast.net >=20 > =20 > On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:06 PM, RONALD STEVENS wrote: >=20 > Hello guys >=20 > I am still doing training and getting the last bugs out of the plane = here in Redmond, but one of the first things I like to do when I am back = in Florida is getting the Garmin GTN750 and getting more sound = Insulation as I think the cabin is kind of noisy. >=20 > Specially in climb it does. Funny enough it is the least noisy in = descent=85=85 >=20 > Do you know of any good shops specialized in sound insulation? Thanks >=20 > -- Ronald, 12 hours and counting=85 >=20 > Ps Yes door seal is fine :)~=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-155-527668138 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I = think there is a lot of disinformation out there.   I make it 20 - = 30 lbs to do it Dan Newland's way depending on how aggressive you want = to be.   That's less than an arctic air unit.   You can't make = the problem go away.   You probably can't make it as good as a = Velocity.   But you can make it noticeably better.    You = just have to decide how you want to spend the = weight.


On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:47 AM, = John Hafen wrote:

j.hafen@comcast.net

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On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:06 PM, RONALD = STEVENS wrote:

Hello = guys

I am still doing training and getting the = last bugs out of the plane here in Redmond, but one of the first things = I like to do when I am back in Florida is getting the Garmin GTN750 and = getting more sound Insulation as I think the cabin is kind of = noisy.

Specially in climb it does. Funny enough = it is the least noisy in descent=85=85

Do you = know of any good shops specialized in sound insulation? = Thanks

-- Ronald, 12 hours and = counting=85

Ps Yes door seal is fine = :)~ 


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