X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:55:33 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [69.84.129.241] (HELO asp.reflexion.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5055623 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:45:51 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.84.129.241; envelope-from=cberland@systems3.net Received: (qmail 13880 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2011 17:01:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.2) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 18 Jul 2011 17:01:40 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v6.50.3) with SMTP; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23375 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2011 16:45:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO remote.systems3.net) (98.172.79.178) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 Jul 2011 16:45:14 -0000 Received: from S3SBS08SERVER.Systems3.local ([fe80::6077:364b:fa39:c71b]) by S3SBS08SERVER.Systems3.local ([fe80::6077:364b:fa39:c71b%10]) with mapi; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:42:48 -0700 From: Craig Berland. X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:42:46 -0700 Subject: [LML] Flight Following in SoCal Thread-Topic: [LML] Flight Following in SoCal Thread-Index: AcxFZx/OdZgCfqkxRQKUpEYYF197PAAAUIFQ X-Original-Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D7A6B5700A0803448C27264F1F5387364E90C76B8AS3SBS08SERVER_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_D7A6B5700A0803448C27264F1F5387364E90C76B8AS3SBS08SERVER_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rob, I have just the oposite experience. I live in the Phoenix area and fly to = SOCAL at least once a month. I have two trips scheduled this week. I can = regularly get flight following by asking Ground Control or Clearance Delive= ry at many SOCAL airports. This is very nice and not available in Phoenix.= I have never entered SOCAL airspace without the wonderful folks at SOCAL = approach helping me out. Getting in and out of SOCAL IFR can test your pat= ience but it is always very professional as you state. Craig Berland I agree that flight following is a valuable service. However, last time I = asked for it in the Southern California area the controller responded: "Una= ble flight following -- multiple targets, all altitudes, all quadrants -- g= ood luck!" Of course, it was a pleasant Saturday afternoon, I was about ten miles from= Torrance, and it seemed like every airplane in the basin was up flying. W= hen I flew IFR in my Cessna 150 on a Tuesday morning a month later I seemed= to have the entire airspace to myself. Flight following in SoCal? It's great. Except I can't get it when I reall= y need it... - Rob Wolf --_000_D7A6B5700A0803448C27264F1F5387364E90C76B8AS3SBS08SERVER_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rob,=

I have just the oposite experience. I live in the Phoenix area and= fly to SOCAL at least once a month. I have two trips scheduled this = week. I can regularly get flight following by asking Ground Control o= r Clearance Delivery at many SOCAL airports. This is very nice and no= t available in Phoenix. I have never entered SOCAL airspace without t= he wonderful folks at SOCAL approach helping me out. Getting in and o= ut of SOCAL IFR can test your patience but it is always very professional a= s you state.

Crai= g Berland

I agree= that flight following is a valuable service. However, last time I as= ked for it in the Southern California area the controller responded: "= Unable flight following -- multiple targets, all altitudes, all quadrants -= - good luck!"

Of course, it was a pleasant Saturday afternoon, I was about ten mile= s from Torrance, and it seemed like every airplane in the basin was up flyi= ng. When I flew IFR in my Cessna 150 on a Tuesday morning a month lat= er I seemed to have the entire airspace to myself.

Flight following in SoCal? = It's great. Except I can't get it when I really need it...

- Rob Wolf

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