Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #58982
From: randy snarr <randylsnarr@yahoo.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: another Lancair
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:18:52 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Interesting stats.
One factor I did not see is the amount of flying each group does. I have a plane in each group and the certified model in my 2 plane fleet does 1/20th of the flying as my experimental model. Most owners do not have 2 planes however, I believe there are more flight hours per plane for experimentals that certifieds...
That is a complete guess but I would like to see this comparrison based on flight hours...
Thanks for sharing..
Randy Snarr

N694RS
235/320

N4442U Cessna 150 in the hangar with dust on it...

"Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible"
-Simon Newcomb, 1902

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Sky2high@aol.com <Sky2high@aol.com> wrote:

From: Sky2high@aol.com <Sky2high@aol.com>
Subject: [LML] Re: another Lancair
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 7:44 AM

Jeff,
 
I couldn't find anything useful either in a scan of news letters or under the button "safety".  The Safety Wire article was too small to read and is missing page 3.  How ridiculous that the EAA reserved safety info only for counselors.  Oh well.........
 
I have attached Lee Metcalf's Lancair accident analyses thru 2005 and the copy of an article I had laying around that points out why one should be suspicious of "experimental" accident stats.  Perhaps the community will find these interesting.
 
Scott
 
In a message dated 7/10/2011 2:18:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, vtailjeff@aol.com writes:
Scott,

The summary and white paper is on the web site. lobo is now deeply involved in other EAA and FAA aviation safety projects. 

Best regards,

Jeff

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote:

Jeff,
 
Any analysis is of interest to all - especially those that can't make your session at OSH.  Perhaps some summary at the LOBO site?
 
Scott Krueger
 
In a message dated 7/8/2011 7:40:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, vtailjeff@aol.com writes:
Mark,
 
Yes, LOBO tracks these matters. Have you ever been to Oshkosh Airventure? These accidents are discussed in detail there. Based on your comments about the engines you would be surprised. In many cases it was not the engine.
 
Jeff Edwards



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 4:59 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: another Lancair

Steve, 

I agree, the pilot community lost another great guy.  Even if he was a jerk, we still need to solve this riddle.  Is LOBO following up on each of these crashes to learn what the experts determine to be the cause(s)?  If not, we'll continue to be having these conversations until we eventually run out of pilots, or airplanes.

Mark 

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Steve Colwell <mcmess1919@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I would sure would like to know why all of these "certified engines" are quitting on takeoff.  
 
Mark S. 
Maybe the engine driven fuel pump is failing.  We are running low boost continuously in case the engine pump fails and to address fuel pressure issues at altitude, hot fuel, vapor lock and other problems.  
I understand the engine will not make full power on low boost (reduce manifold pressure and settle for less power?)   
Or, it might quit if high boost is on and the mixture is not adjusted.   
Since engine driven pump failure, heat and altitude all affect fuel delivery, it would seem using the low boost continuously could solve or make these problems manageable.  
Dr. Lyle Koen did our last two physicals.  He was a very likeable guy who built one of the early IV’s and had over 1000 hours on it.  We talked to him about joining LOBO and coming to the Branson Fly-In. 
Given the more knowledgeable than usual witness account, could training have changed this outcome?
Steve  Legacy IO550
 

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