X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 08:25:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [205.186.160.203] (HELO server.rmcginc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5012463 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 15:53:30 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.186.160.203; envelope-from=r.rickard@rcginc-us.com Received: (qmail 3780 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2011 12:52:53 -0700 Received: from 24-107-105-58.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (HELO RCGSTLPC) (24.107.105.58) by rmcomserver.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2011 12:52:53 -0700 From: "Bob Rickard" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Winglets? And introducing myself as a very near future 4p owner. X-Original-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:52:48 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <00ef01cc254c$7aa33400$6fe99c00$@rickard@rcginc-us.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F0_01CC2522.91CD2C00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcwlP0xKi1jiHCwsTX+VkzAuJq8R8wADHhMw Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01CC2522.91CD2C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ronald- I'm a IV-P owner, my plane has 1750 hours (500 from me). Don't have winglets, and I have a TSIO 550 vs. a Turbine. Some days I want them (because they are sexy). But what I want ALL of the time is speed, so I don't mind not having them. As far as stability goes, the plane is rock solid at up to 240 (I have never been higher) so I don't think that is an issue on a well built airplane. Bottom line, if they weren't so damn good looking I don't think anyone would have them. If I were a turbine owner way up there at 250 and higher, that might change, some Turbine guys might weigh in here.. Bob R From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of RONALD STEVENS Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:18 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Winglets? And introducing myself as a very near future 4p owner. Hello guys. I like to introduce myself, I am 50, European/American, former Cirrus SR22 (1100 hours) and Velocity TXL5 (250 hours, just sold this plane) (total 1400 hours). I am a future Lancair 4p owner (looking to buy one these weeks, so if you know someone who wants to sell his let me know) and looked at a few Lancair 4p already. Now about the winglets (my first question); Some planes I looked at had their winglets, some not. All those that did not had one told me it doesn't do anything, the ones they had did told me it works great, more stability etc, even the CAFE report is telling that it produces more stability at higher altitude. But.even the big Charlie Kohler told me it doesn't add anything but more drag...thus less speed. I have no experience whatsoever with the Winglets. So my question to you guys is, do you have any experience telling you that it does work? (this is more for pilots who had both so they can tell the difference) Thanks -- Ronald Stevens ------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01CC2522.91CD2C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ronald-

I’m a IV-P owner, my plane has 1750 hours (500 from me). Don’t have winglets, and I have a TSIO 550 vs. a = Turbine. Some days I want them (because they are sexy). But what I want ALL = of the time is speed, so I don’t mind not having them. As far as = stability goes, the plane is rock solid at up to 240 (I have never been higher) so = I don’t think that is an issue on a well built airplane. Bottom line, if = they weren’t so damn good looking I don’t think anyone would have them. = If I were a turbine owner way up there at 250 and higher, that might = change, some Turbine guys might weigh in here….

Bob R

From:= Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of RONALD = STEVENS
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:18 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Winglets? And introducing myself as a very near = future 4p owner.

Hello guys.

I like to introduce myself, I am 50, European/American, = former Cirrus

SR22 (1100 hours) and Velocity TXL5 (250 hours, just sold = this plane)

(total 1400 hours).

I am a future Lancair 4p owner (looking to buy one these = weeks, so if

you know someone who wants to sell his let me know) and = looked at a few

Lancair 4p already.

Now about the winglets (my first = question);

Some planes I looked at had their winglets, some not. All = those that did not had one told me it doesn't do anything, the ones they = had did told me it works great,

more stability etc, even the CAFE report is telling that it produces

more stability at higher altitude.

But…even the big Charlie Kohler told me it doesn't = add anything but more

drag...thus less speed.

I have no experience whatsoever with the Winglets. So my = question to you

guys is, do you have any experience telling you that it = does work? (this

is more for pilots who had both so they can tell the = difference)

Thanks -- Ronald Stevens

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