X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:13:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTP id 4955717 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:23:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.66; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=lmkGMOCCTU1ir073sAHbtqYAnskZp9JHN2kWMrfTgy2mlA+Y5SvTVPpleNeKVehx; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.57.118.194] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1QDpu5-00088t-5B for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:22:33 -0400 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-417-1038121797 Subject: Re: [LML] IVPT A/C & Aft fuselage area questions X-Original-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:22:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <4C32222B-60A5-4793-AECC-00348D8E7C12@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9406b2819ea457b35d9ee6846074da89bff350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.57.118.194 --Apple-Mail-417-1038121797 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Tom, Adding to the other points that have been made: - are you going to have fresh air? that would come from the tail = ideally. - Are you putting a com antenna in the tail? If so, recommend doing the = vswr test before you close everything out.. - going skiing? might want to make a ski tube closed off from the other = stuff. - on the ahrs, consider dual ahrs now. It's cheaper and smaller than = adding another later. - going for a transcontinental record? might want to consider = additional fuel for solo flights - what's the de-ice plan? If you are going to put something in it's = easier to deal with now than hacking later. As far as CG goes, I put both batteries ahead of the firewall and have a = heavy metal full feathering hartzell prop. All the avionics boxes in = the airplane are shoved as far forward in the cabin as possible. That = helps some. Other avionics stuff: - most people put an antenna tray under the glass in front of the tail. = Garmin's new waas antennas are bigger than the old ones. plan = accordingly. Also might want to think about access to those from the = tail access panel just ahead of the stab. - easier to mount antennas, the less other stuff is in the airplane. = belly mounted com, tcad, stormscope etc. consider what you will do = for nav antennas. whisker on the tail is known to work - so that is = some plumbing back there. =20 Colyn On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Tom & Beth Sullivan wrote: > As we're finishing up the A/C condenser mounting, wiring and = plumbing, my part time build helper, an A&P, and I were looking at the = space left in the aft fuselage area, wondering what we have left to fit = in there? I'm thinking ELT and what else? I would like to complete as = much as possible before temporarily installing the top and fitting the = door.=20 > =20 > The autopilot installation came up and we are wondering if the = autopilots typically used in the IVP are "trim tab" driven (I have Ray = Allen servos on all of my trim tabs), or are there servo's hooked = directly to flight control tubes? Specifically, we are wondering if we = will need to mount some type of servo to the elevator push/pull tube? > =20 > I've also fabricated mounts and installed the evaporator and fan on = the rear pressure bulkhead (all of my own design) and wondering if = anyone has pictures of this area during different phases of completion? > =20 > Thanks in advance > =20 > Tom Sullivan > Refocused and making progress!! --Apple-Mail-417-1038121797 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi Tom,

Adding to the other = points that have been made:
- are you going to have fresh air? =   that would come from the tail ideally.
- Are you = putting a com antenna in the tail?  If so, recommend doing the vswr = test before you close everything out..
- going skiing? might = want to make a ski tube closed off from the other stuff.
- on = the ahrs, consider dual ahrs now.  It's cheaper and smaller than = adding another later.
- going for a transcontinental record? =  might want to consider additional fuel for solo = flights
- what's the de-ice plan?  If you are going to = put something in it's easier to deal with now than hacking = later.

As far as CG goes, I put both batteries = ahead of the firewall and have a heavy metal full feathering hartzell = prop.   All the avionics boxes in the airplane are shoved as far = forward in the cabin as possible.  That helps = some.

Other avionics stuff:
- most = people put an antenna tray under the glass in front of the tail.   = Garmin's new waas antennas are bigger than the old ones.   plan = accordingly.   Also might want to think about access to those from = the tail access panel just ahead of the stab.
- easier to = mount antennas, the less other stuff is in the airplane.   belly = mounted com, tcad, stormscope etc.    consider what you will = do for nav antennas.  whisker on the tail is known to work - so = that is some plumbing back there. =   

Colyn


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On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Tom & Beth Sullivan = wrote:

   As we're finishing up the = A/C condenser mounting, wiring and plumbing, my part time build helper, = an A&P, and I were looking at the space left in the aft = fuselage area, wondering what we have left to fit in there?  = I'm thinking ELT and what else?  I would like to complete as much = as possible before temporarily installing the top and fitting the = door. 
 
  The = autopilot installation came up and we are wondering if the autopilots = typically used in the IVP are "trim tab" driven (I have Ray Allen = servos on all of my trim tabs), or are there servo's hooked directly to = flight control tubes?  Specifically, we are wondering if we will = need to mount some type of servo to the elevator push/pull = tube?
 
  I've also fabricated = mounts and installed the evaporator and fan on the rear pressure = bulkhead (all of my own design) and wondering if anyone has pictures of = this area during different phases of = completion?
 
Thanks in = advance
 
Tom Sullivan
Refocused and = making = progress!!

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