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We were able to get a copy of
the fax that was sent to the local police. The “Tip” came
from Customs and Border Patrol in CA. And the local Police chief was
actually apologetic because he knew it was bogus. The tip itself
is BS. They made it up. IF they had been watching me or
investigating me they would have known my wife was with me and not some
dude. That is the only part that is really a violation, they are making
up an excuse to get the locals excited, and then seeing what they find. Another
example was a guy accused of transporting computer chips that were
stolen. I can imagine them making up stories over the coffee in the
morning.
How would the public react if
any Fed agency routinely made up tips so the cops would come to your house and
want to search? Imagine the news coverage. That is the same thing going
on here. If they have something on you, then absolutely go for it.
But they did not in the 3 cases we know about just at our local airport.
The lesson you derived is
correct though. Know your rights, and also know how you can help them do
their job without violating your rights. That is the best thing you can
do (if innocent) while saying the least amount possible.
Bob R
From: Lancair Mailing
List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of William Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:05 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: beware, you may be searched!
Seems pretty standard to
me. They checked out a tip that proved to be bogus. I don't see any
rights violations here or anything out of the ordinary.
The main lesson IMO is that, while there are plenty of cops who abuse power,
for the most part if you behave in a civilized manner and realize they are just
trying to do their job, most of them will treat you fairly. That seems to
be what happened here.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Bob Rickard <r.rickard@rcginc-us.com> wrote:
Fellow
LML’ers
It
seems inevitable that the govt will search you at some point. Just some
info on what happened to me yesterday, you can hopefully use this to react
appropriately for your situation. This is the third incident just at our
little airport in Missouri of this happening…..
Bob
Rickard
IV-P
On
18 April, 2011, I filed IFR from KGEU to K1H0 direct, with my wife on
board. At 0845L, I departed KGEU VFR and picked up my filed IFR clearance
to K1H0 at FL210 with ABQ center. The flight was uneventful and I
cancelled IFR approximately 10 miles from K1H0 with St. Louis Approach and
landed at 1443L. Upon landing and taxi to my hanger (P3) at Creve Coeur
Airport, I was surrounded by 6 Maryland Heights Police cars and about 10
officers. I exited the plane and was approached by the supervisor and
asked if I had any identification. I produced my military ID (I am a
LtCol in the Air Force Reserve flying F-22’s) as well as my
driver’s license, and asked the supervisor what the problem was. He
told me that he got a “tip” from the Federal Government that there
may be a federal fugitive on board by the name of Robert Mcrae. He
wasn’t sure of the name and asked me if I knew anyone by a name similar
to that, to which I answered “no” to all. He also stated that
he was surprised to see a woman in the plane with me since his informant said there
would be two men in the plane. I inquired as to who would give a tip like
that, and he was vague. A this point my wife exited the plane and was
asked to produce her ID as well and was questioned as to what we were doing and
where we were going and where we came from. It was apparent to the
supervisor pretty quickly that my wife and I were not federal fugitives as they
ran our ID’s, but he asked to search the airplane anyway. I told
him that I was aware of my rights and he could not search anything without a
warrant, and he was quick to add “or your permission” and “I
could have the dogs come out”. (side note – they don’t
need a warrant to have the dogs check out your aircraft – if the dogs
find something and indicate, then they have probable cause to search you
without a warrant. If the dogs find nothing they cannot search your
aircraft until a warrant is issued). I told him that I would play nice,
had nothing to hide, and that my plan was to take my belongings out of the
airplane and put them in my car to go home, and I would allow him to see what I
took out and visually see inside the cockpit and baggage compartment, but I was
not allowing a search of the airplane. He agreed to this. I took my 2
pieces of luggage out of the back and showed him the contents briefly (not a
complete search but opened up the zipper and showed clothes on top) as well as
the couple of vases we had bought in Phoenix and lunch/sodas we had in the
cockpit. They saw nothing of interest and returned my wife’s ID,
but kept mine and made further calls. The supervisor indicated
“I’m on overtime, I am outta here” and left, but another
officer checked with “EPIC” (unsure of the spelling) which he told
me was an international consortium that traded information on travel,
etc. He told me he was aware of my trip earlier this year to Mexico and
the Cayman Islands (honeymoon cruise) but there was nothing to get me in
trouble. He then returned my ID and let us go.
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