X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:05:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.163] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTP id 4951403 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.207.163; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p3K08A87026898 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:10 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.dbf.135d2aea (43840) for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.104]) by cia-dc03.mx.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC035-b30c4dae23e12ca; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:05 -0400 Received: from webmail-d100 (webmail-d100.sim.aol.com [205.188.255.1]) by smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com (v129.9) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYME034-b30c4dae23e12ca; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:01 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] beware, you may be searched! X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:01 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.107.65.42 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDCD062573E83A_10AC_FD3B_webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33540-STANDARD Received: from 24.107.65.42 by webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.1) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:01 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CDCD06256CC3FF-10AC-8826@webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: VTAILJEFF@aol.com ----------MB_8CDCD062573E83A_10AC_FD3B_webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" check this out... they even show us how they are doing it. we are all susp= ects.... http://nemo.cbp.gov/opa/videos/2010/amoc/amoc.wmv -----Original Message----- From: Bob Rickard To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 5:13 pm Subject: [LML] beware, you may be searched! Fellow LML=E2=80=99ers =20 It seems inevitable that the govt will search you at some point. Just som= e info on what happened to me yesterday, you can hopefully use this to rea= ct appropriately for your situation. This is the third incident just at= our little airport in Missouri of this happening=E2=80=A6.. =20 Bob Rickard IV-P =20 On 18 April, 2011, I filed IFR from KGEU to K1H0 direct, with my wife on= board. At 0845L, I departed KGEU VFR and picked up my filed IFR clearanc= e to K1H0 at FL210 with ABQ center. The flight was uneventful and I cance= lled IFR approximately 10 miles from K1H0 with St. Louis Approach and land= ed at 1443L. Upon landing and taxi to my hanger (P3) at Creve Coeur Airpo= rt, I was surrounded by 6 Maryland Heights Police cars and about 10 office= rs. I exited the plane and was approached by the supervisor and asked if= I had any identification. I produced my military ID (I am a LtCol in the= Air Force Reserve flying F-22=E2=80=99s) as well as my driver=E2=80=99s= license, and asked the supervisor what the problem was. He told me that= he got a =E2=80=9Ctip=E2=80=9D from the Federal Government that there may= be a federal fugitive on board by the name of Robert Mcrae. He wasn=E2= =80=99t sure of the name and asked me if I knew anyone by a name similar= to that, to which I answered =E2=80=9Cno=E2=80=9D to all. He also stated= that he was surprised to see a woman in the plane with me since his infor= mant said there would be two men in the plane. I inquired as to who would= give a tip like that, and he was vague. A this point my wife exited the= plane and was asked to produce her ID as well and was questioned as to wh= at we were doing and where we were going and where we came from. It was= apparent to the supervisor pretty quickly that my wife and I were not fed= eral fugitives as they ran our ID=E2=80=99s, but he asked to search the ai= rplane anyway. I told him that I was aware of my rights and he could not= search anything without a warrant, and he was quick to add =E2=80=9Cor yo= ur permission=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CI could have the dogs come out=E2=80= =9D. (side note =E2=80=93 they don=E2=80=99t need a warrant to have the= dogs check out your aircraft =E2=80=93 if the dogs find something and ind= icate, then they have probable cause to search you without a warrant. If= the dogs find nothing they cannot search your aircraft until a warrant is= issued). I told him that I would play nice, had nothing to hide, and tha= t my plan was to take my belongings out of the airplane and put them in my= car to go home, and I would allow him to see what I took out and visually= see inside the cockpit and baggage compartment, but I was not allowing a= search of the airplane. He agreed to this. I took my 2 pieces of luggage= out of the back and showed him the contents briefly (not a complete searc= h but opened up the zipper and showed clothes on top) as well as the coupl= e of vases we had bought in Phoenix and lunch/sodas we had in the cockpit.= They saw nothing of interest and returned my wife=E2=80=99s ID, but kept= mine and made further calls. The supervisor indicated =E2=80=9CI=E2=80= =99m on overtime, I am outta here=E2=80=9D and left, but another officer= checked with =E2=80=9CEPIC=E2=80=9D (unsure of the spelling) which he tol= d me was an international consortium that traded information on travel, et= c. He told me he was aware of my trip earlier this year to Mexico and the= Cayman Islands (honeymoon cruise) but there was nothing to get me in trou= ble. He then returned my ID and let us go. =20 ----------MB_8CDCD062573E83A_10AC_FD3B_webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
check this out... they even show us how they are doing it. we are all= suspects....
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Rickard <r.rickard@rcginc-us.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2011 5:13 pm
Subject: [LML] beware, you may be searched!

Fellow LML=E2=80=99ers
 
It seems inevitable that the govt will search you= at some point.  Just some info on what happened to me yesterday, you= can hopefully use this to react appropriately for your situation. = This is the third incident just at our little airport in Missouri of this= happening=E2=80=A6..
 
Bob Rickard
IV-P
 
On 18 April, 2011, I filed IFR from KGEU to K1H0 di= rect, with my wife on board.  At 0845L, I departed KGEU VFR and picke= d up my filed IFR clearance to K1H0 at FL210 with ABQ center.  The fl= ight was uneventful and I cancelled IFR approximately 10 miles from K1H0= with St. Louis Approach and landed at 1443L.  Upon landing and taxi= to my hanger (P3) at Creve Coeur Airport, I was surrounded by 6 Maryland= Heights Police cars and about 10 officers.  I exited the plane and= was approached by the supervisor and asked if I had any identification.&n= bsp; I produced my military ID (I am a LtCol in the Air Force Reserve flyi= ng F-22=E2=80=99s) as well as my driver=E2=80=99s license, and asked the= supervisor what the problem was.  He told me that he got a =E2=80=9C= tip=E2=80=9D from the Federal Government that there may be a federal fugit= ive on board by the name of Robert Mcrae.  He wasn=E2=80=99t sure of= the name and asked me if I knew anyone by a name similar to that, to whic= h I answered =E2=80=9Cno=E2=80=9D to all.  He also stated that he was= surprised to see a woman in the plane with me since his informant said th= ere would be two men in the plane.  I inquired as to who would give= a tip like that, and he was vague.  A this point my wife exited the= plane and was asked to produce her ID as well and was questioned as to wh= at we were doing and where we were going and where we came from. &nbs= p; It was apparent to the supervisor pretty quickly that my wife and I wer= e not federal fugitives as they ran our ID=E2=80=99s, but he asked to sear= ch the airplane anyway.  I told him that I was aware of my rights and= he could not search anything without a warrant, and he was quick to add= =E2=80=9Cor your permission=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CI could have the dogs= come out=E2=80=9D.  (side note =E2=80=93 they don=E2=80=99t need a= warrant to have the dogs check out your aircraft =E2=80=93 if the dogs fi= nd something and indicate, then they have probable cause to search you wit= hout a warrant.  If the dogs find nothing they cannot search your air= craft until a warrant is issued).  I told him that I would play nice,= had nothing to hide, and that my plan was to take my belongings out of th= e airplane and put them in my car to go home, and I would allow him to see= what I took out and visually see inside the cockpit and baggage compartme= nt, but I was not allowing a search of the airplane.  He agreed to th= is. I took my 2 pieces of luggage out of the back and showed him the conte= nts briefly (not a complete search but opened up the zipper and showed clo= thes on top) as well as the couple of vases we had bought in Phoenix and= lunch/sodas we had in the cockpit.  They saw nothing of interest and= returned my wife=E2=80=99s ID, but kept mine and made further calls. = ; The supervisor indicated =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m on overtime, I am outta he= re=E2=80=9D and left, but another officer checked with =E2=80=9CEPIC=E2=80= =9D (unsure of the spelling) which he told me was an international consort= ium that traded information on travel, etc.  He told me he was aware= of my trip earlier this year to Mexico and the Cayman Islands (honeymoon= cruise) but there was nothing to get me in trouble.  He then returne= d my ID and let us go.
 
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