X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTP id 4901746 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:52:00 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.95; envelope-from=MikeEasley@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p2ACpOuO030684 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:51:24 -0500 Received: from core-mka001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mka001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.102.65]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4C465E0000A0 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:51:24 -0500 (EST) From: MikeEasley@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <9e0a0.590c258c.3aaa234c@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:51:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [LML] Paint adhesion to carbon fiber X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9e0a0.590c258c.3aaa234c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5001 X-AOL-IP: 75.71.55.189 X-Originating-IP: [172.19.146.161] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:365580832:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a4d78c94c4c0c --part1_9e0a0.590c258c.3aaa234c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Body filler and cowls don't together very well. Cowls flex and swell. I would recommend micro with a little flox if you need to do any bodywork on a cowl. Cover any filler with a thin layer off carbon cloth. Be sure any mold release residue is completely gone. Scuff the heck out of the surface. Be sure all the dust is blown off the surface. Use a very high quality epoxy primer surfacer. Mike Easley Colorado Springs In a message dated 3/9/2011 6:26:43 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, ian.crowe@sympatico.ca writes: I have a 360 with a locally built carbon fiber cowling. My problem is that I cannot seem to get a local painter who can make the paint stick. The last try gave me about ten hours before cracks appeared to start from around the oil filler door and spread outwards from there. It became apparent the whole paint system, body filler and all was lifting off from the carbon fiber. Is there any procedure that must be followed to ensure that the filler and paint will remain bonded to the carbon fiber? I do not want to try painting it again before I can have a reasonable chance of having it last. Any help or thoughts on the matter will be gratefully received or personal experience with this problem. Tim, does Lancair recommend any procedure with carbon fiber aircraft.. Ian B. Crowe LNC 2 C-FKRO --part1_9e0a0.590c258c.3aaa234c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Body filler and cowls don't together very well.  Cowls flex and= =20 swell.  I would recommend micro with a little flox if you need to do a= ny=20 bodywork on a cowl.  Cover any filler with a thin layer off carbon=20 cloth.  Be sure any mold release residue is completely gone.  Scu= ff=20 the heck out of the surface.  Be sure all the dust is blown off the=20 surface.  Use a very high quality epoxy primer surfacer.
 
Mike Easley
Colorado Springs
 
In a message dated 3/9/2011 6:26:43 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,=20 ian.crowe@sympatico.ca writes:
=
I have a 360 with a locally built carbon fiber=20 cowling.  My problem is that I cannot seem to get a local painter wh= o can=20 make the paint stick.  The last try gave me about ten hours before&n= bsp;=20 cracks appeared to start from around the oil filler door and spread outwa= rds=20 from there.  It became apparent the whole paint system, body filler = and=20 all was lifting off from the carbon fiber.
 
Is there any procedure that must be followed to ensur= e that=20 the filler and paint will remain bonded to the carbon fiber?  I do n= ot=20 want to try painting it again before I can have a reasonable chance of ha= ving=20 it last.
 
Any help or thoughts on the matter will be gratefully= =20 received or personal experience with this problem.
 
Tim, does Lancair recommend any procedure with carbon= fiber=20 aircraft..
 
Ian B.  Crowe
LNC 2=20 C-FKRO
--part1_9e0a0.590c258c.3aaa234c_boundary--