X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 10:18:04 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm18.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.88] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with SMTP id 4891931 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 09:56:20 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.88; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.91.61] by nm18.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 14:55:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.57] by tm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 14:55:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 14:55:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 173244.9589.bm@omp1057.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 52659 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Mar 2011 14:55:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dUx2YNdNpPkVRCUm1dsDgH/aVoaODrQLinQ0Kcxp5mBueZuR9X9A7UCO9zhPy615VzD0KqFRNOml5cMKbx/7jXbSvSL+rPva+UXblWKQk5FlsLjCZdaaKpHD7Aenwz1eM688CPYQxq9t1+FERIqrcPmsVZ5wthxjHv34fbUJDwA=; X-Original-Message-ID: <762152.50432.qm@web111404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: F5VKh4cVM1nysTQVU50WiqAn8BvKm.gUWfjdVM0VTS1cP7u 2Ho6waNmJc6.cnhv2V4emMFfQyK19QjegR0dXpzHcfRonsJ_eQdAr3T77UrZ 5l3Nd5VLliY.hydiwc6pAuPz5Ft4wwelp75eHjH9rbU9U87P3YCzSMgYCxFJ p06JU343lO1bDxrrxIDJpwIqWHF_1PQ3NbWtM.9aKQx7MC4E.vlSvwMpoJ8K If8TqRRir7M5uncBY4smGG6u.fk2Bi.jp2cbmQNSIcfLxWhlxCkbJA_iWN79 1AQdGSux8CSx_eF1zCpt6XJMK9NVlXKKw7T7.VNBvOxHeFsCYKZLtp0INSRn vqMaG4cr.pqGeNwUIJQJa6S6T4___Bh3JOvjAl3YWO4cPlIZHtt7GgqSTABd ALn01UdSgNQa7 Received: from [76.8.220.21] by web111404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:55:43 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 X-Original-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 06:55:43 -0800 (PST) From: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Re: DAR Inspection X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1871144381-1299336943=:50432" --0-1871144381-1299336943=:50432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When my inspector came out to issue my AW certificate, he asked if I had a = builders log. I pulled out the binder with all the documentation and progress photos, dat= es ect... expecting him to carefully go through it. He saw the binder cover= labeled builder log and checked off that box on his paper...He did not ope= n it.. Randy Snarr N694RS "Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if n= ot utterly impossible" -Simon Newcomb, 1902 --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Gary Casey wrote: From: Gary Casey Subject: [LML] Re: DAR Inspection To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 12:15 PM Wayne,I had no real problem getting my "Repairman's Certificate." =C2=A0I d= on't remember the details, but most of my documentation was the Lancair man= ual with notes and dates on the pages. =C2=A0I don't think I actually had t= o submit that, though - I just filled out the application. =C2=A0I don't th= ink a formal builder's log is a requirement - but then that was just my exp= erience. YMMVGary Casey I learned from my DAR that these are not needed at time of inspection for t= he pink slip.=C2=A0 However, if you want a maintenance approval you have to= go back to the FAA after you=E2=80=99ve flown off the hours to get that li= cense or whatever it is called.=C2=A0 At that time you=E2=80=99ll need to p= roduce said documents.=C2=A0 If you don=E2=80=99t have, you may not be able= to be the legal repair guy for your bird.=C2=A0No expertise on this subjec= t claimed =E2=80=93 just what my DAR told me.=C2=A0John Barrett Fellows, =C2=A0 Getting close to that time for a DAR. =C2=A0 For those of you who have been there are photos and a builders log a requir= ement, I went exactly by the manuels so did'nt bother with logs and most of= the photos melted in the file cabinet in the hangar. =C2=A0 Any advise before I make the arrangements. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 Thanks Wayne Tassin=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A --0-1871144381-1299336943=:50432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When my inspector came out to issue my AW cer= tificate, he asked if I had a builders log.
I pulled out the binder with= all the documentation and progress photos, dates ect... expecting him to c= arefully go through it. He saw the binder cover labeled builder log and che= cked off that box on his paper...He did not open it..

Randy SnarrN694RS

"Flight by machines heav= ier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible"
-Simon Newcomb, 1902

--- On Fri, 3/4/11, Gary Casey &= lt;casey.gary@yahoo.com> wrote:

= From: Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com>
Subject: [LML] Re: DAR Ins= pection
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 12:15 PM

Wayne,
I had no real problem getting my "Re= pairman's Certificate."  I don't remember the details, but most of my = documentation was the Lancair manual with notes and dates on the pages. &nb= sp;I don't think I actually had to submit that, though - I just filled out = the application.  I don't think a formal builder's log is a requiremen= t - but then that was just my experience. YMMV
Gary Casey

I learned fr= om my DAR that these are not needed at time of inspection for the pink slip= .  However, if you want a maintenance approval you have to go back to the FAA after you=E2=80=99ve= flown off the hours to get that license or whatever it is called.  At= that time you=E2=80=99ll need to produce said documents.  If you don= =E2=80=99t have, you may not be able to be the legal repair guy for your bi= rd.

&nb= sp;

No = expertise on this subject claimed =E2=80=93 just what my DAR told me.

 

John Barrett


Fellows,
 
Getting close to that time for a DAR= .
 
For those of you who have been there are photos and a builde= rs log a requirement, I went exactly by the manuels so did'nt bother with l= ogs and most of the photos melted in the file cabinet in the hangar.
 
Any advise b= efore I make the arrangements.
       = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;        Thanks Wayne Tassin

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