X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:47:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.164] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4432401 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:21:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.207.164; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o7GDKo9A011171 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:20:50 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.ced.7ceb7a52 (55916) for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m27.mail.aol.com (magic-m27.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.200]) by cia-md07.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD073-da6c4c693b2d86; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:20:45 -0400 From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <119bc.5be4fed.399a952d@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:20:45 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC2 over-center link X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_119bc.5be4fed.399a952d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.5 sub 155 X-AOL-IP: 24.15.17.119 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Sky2high@aol.com --part1_119bc.5be4fed.399a952d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randy, I waited until you mentioned your replacement. I have one and it accomplishes the goal of actually tightening the bolt so the tab is held firmly against the outer edge of the bearing. This eliminates the sloppiness of the original linkage and its potential to fail from wear. Scott Krueger In a message dated 8/16/2010 7:47:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, randylsnarr@yahoo.com writes: Rod, We made a batch of these a few years ago. They are still aluminum but they are very strong and they utilize a replaceable standard size brass bushing. We had some made with 7072 and I may have one of those as well. I know I have a few 6061's around. Attached is a picture.. Contact me off line if you are interested... Randy Snarr --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Rod Pharis wrote: From: Rod Pharis Subject: [LML] Re: LNC2 over-center link To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:37 PM If you are as anal as I am, you would use Titanium to add strength while maintaining weight (minimal to no increase depending on design). Rod Pharis From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gary Edwards Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:34 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: LNC2 over-center link It has already been done. Randy Snarr had them made up and a lot of LNC2 owners replaced the originals with them. Gary Edwards LNC2 I would think steel isn't necessary. But what if we put a spherical bearing in the end where the over center link meets the strut relieving the stress of having less than perfect geometry? Would require a new link made. If there's interest I know a machinist that could make that happen. Jim Fellow 320/360 owners, builders, and operators (and anyone else caring to comment): Does anyone out there think it is worth my while to have a nose gear over-center link manufactured out of a different material? Mark Ravinski's unfortunate incident made me wonder. I believe Mark attributes his to time in service and perhaps poor maintenance. it seems the follow on posts mostly support that conclusion along with possible installation problems. I have investigated this enough to know that it is a fairly expensive proposition especially without CAD drawings. I reviewed the archives and noted that someone was going to produce them in steel and make them available way back when. Does anyone recall if that actually happened? Does anyone out there actually have the CAD drawings? Ross at Lancair was unable to help in that regard. Any interest in any sort of a group buy? I hope to fully utilize this little beauty if I ever get it done to include landing on grass. That said, should I suck it up and get the part made or am I being a total nervous Nelly? Any and all comments welcome! Thanks, Steve Veach -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --part1_119bc.5be4fed.399a952d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Randy,
 
I waited until you mentioned your replacement.  I have one= and it=20 accomplishes the goal of actually tightening the bolt so the tab is held= firmly=20 against the outer edge of the bearing.  This eliminates the sloppines= s of=20 the original linkage and its potential to fail from wear.
 
Scott Krueger
 
In a message dated 8/16/2010 7:47:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 randylsnarr@yahoo.com writes:
Rod, We made a batch of these a few=20 years ago.
They are still aluminum but they are very stro= ng and=20 they utilize a replaceable standard size brass bushing. We= had=20 some made with 7072 and I may have one of those as well. I= know I=20 have a few 6061's around.

Attached is a=20 picture..
Contact me off line if you are interested...Randy=20 Snarr

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Rod Pharis=20 <rpharis@verizon.net> wrote:

From:=20 Rod Pharis <rpharis@verizon.net>
Subject: [LML]= Re:=20 LNC2 over-center link
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date= :=20 Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:37 PM

If you are= as=20 anal as I am, you would use Titanium to add strength while= =20 maintaining weight (minimal to no increase depending on=20 design).

&nbs= p;

Rod=20 Pharis

&nbs= p;

From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gary=20 Edwards
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:34=20 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject:= [LML]=20 Re: LNC2 over-center link

 

It has already been= =20 done.  Randy Snarr had them made up and a lot of LNC2= =20 owners replaced the originals with them.

 

Gary=20 Edwards

LNC2 

I would think st= eel=20 isn't necessary. But what if we put a spherical bearing<= BR>in=20 the end where the over center link meets the strut relie= ving=20 the stress
of having less than perfect geometry? Woul= d=20 require a new link made. If
there's interest I know= a=20 machinist that could make that happen.
Jim

Fel= low=20 320/360 owners, builders, and operators (and anyone else= =20 caring 
to comment):

Does anyone out the= re=20 think it is worth my while to have a nose gear =20
over-center link manufactured out of a different=20 material?  Mark 
Ravinski's unfortunate in= cident=20 made me wonder.  I believe Mark 
attribute= s his=20 to time in service and perhaps poor maintenance. = =20 it 
seems the follow on posts mostly support th= at=20 conclusion along with 
possible installation=20 problems.  I have investigated this enough to = =20
know that it is a fairly expensive proposition espec= ially=20 without CAD 
drawings.  I reviewed the arc= hives=20 and noted that someone was going to 
produce th= em in=20 steel and make them available way back when.  Does&= nbsp;=20
anyone recall if that actually happened? Does anyone= out=20 there 
actually have the CAD drawings?  Ro= ss at=20 Lancair was unable to help in 
that regard.&nbs= p; Any=20 interest in any sort of a group buy?  I hope to&nbs= p;=20
fully utilize this little beauty if I ever get it do= ne to=20 include 
landing on grass. That said, should I= suck=20 it up and get the part made 
or am I being a to= tal=20 nervous Nelly?  Any and all comments=20 welcome!

Thanks,

Steve=20 Veach



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