X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:13:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.15.204] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.7) with SMTP id 4340978 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:08:06 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.15.204; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22683 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2010 02:07:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WxaWNFI+ACgrJET67WoHcSVOUOjDBm+p1lteIYHTkHGexLxvzJzVgj+dSLkGHw4WXuJ3i5oWTiB/d6hMea64VfNB/n3fDR1DSFvqBfyAM4v3L/GPgnP66ReLZSu0uISQ4Yobqg3fhbjnN2HFSbosPWu+2lK6hOymxa1CJxyhEpU=; X-Original-Message-ID: <670499.22255.qm@web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dIvN4TMVM1mdajc9TEW.SfX3l9.5wvrBJodak0XY5PpQj3c JUv.wsQ4bc9Ys9q2GacThZzu4McoLAErvPHi0BUCYBAU3MD.A9DxWVLsabc_ ovWNGqiE3xuwSkUnRRMgUUkreyVLzAwhSaQD2msojpfPVjTRR.6Miw0qQU95 Pxffi_pxGuBnMipQongZ9dS14PllWO3BBA3nwrxmjHrdG6hMSlSQcxbUHr71 mU9POlf0TNLMgQmtCdVydKGLBlI9C15PcqCojBD9Gijd5zji4tYPSQtXFTXn .gpPRkRrVO1jjsFmHgEBl6McsCnlQOYr6O7eoKzRqJk1fj6MzUdzOG.i7UCt oZ11SUfV8g.1Jk1AFL5qSpOvayJir5pt2DNxDkw-- Received: from [76.8.220.18] by web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:07:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.1.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 X-Original-Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] LNC2 warning and a question X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-609019934-1276049250=:22255" --0-609019934-1276049250=:22255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, If I recall, in the plans it says that with gear down pressure the over cen= ter link should have a modest amount of pressure meaning that the strut sho= uld bottom out and take most of the stress.=20 Where did the over center link break? =A0 Randy Snarr N694RS 235/320 =A0 --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Mark Ravinski wrote: From: Mark Ravinski Subject: [LML] LNC2 warning and a question To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 7:31 PM It seems my nose gear failure was at least partially caused by an overcente= r link that was never properly adjusted. To be more precise, the cylinder extension put down pressure on the link wh= en down and locked. Combine this pressure with the air spring and lots of landings over 20 year= s - and it failed with one firm landing in gusty wind. =A0 Chris Zavatson suggested I look into the extension length and pressure - th= ank you very much. And, Angier Ames told me he solved the problem by disassembling the cylinde= r and putting a shim inside to limit the down travel. Thanks for that too. =A0 Does anyone else have another suggestion.=A0 I've measured my linkage alrea= dy and am planning=A0to add a=A0shim. =A0 I can see where this problem might develop if the locknut that holds the ro= d end becomes loose.=A0 This would allow the cylinder rod to unscrew itself= in time making the extended length greater.=A0 This locknut is completely = hidden when assembled. =A0 be safe, =A0 Mark Ravinski=A0 LNC2=A0 1484 hrs =0A=0A=0A --0-609019934-1276049250=:22255 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
If I recall, in the plans it says that with gear down pressure the ove= r center link should have a modest amount of pressure meaning that the stru= t should bottom out and take most of the stress.

Where did the over= center link break?
 
Randy Snarr
N694RS
235/320
 
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, Mark Ravinski <mjrav@comcast.net><= /B> wrote:

From: Mark Ravinski <mjrav@comcast.net>
= Subject: [LML] LNC2 warning and a question
To: lml@lancaironline.net
= Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 7:31 PM

It seems my nose gear failure was at least= partially caused by an overcenter link that was never properly adjusted.
To be more precise, the cylinder extension= put down pressure on the link when down and locked.
Combine this pressure with the air spring = and lots of landings over 20 years - and it failed with one firm landing in= gusty wind.
 
Chris Zavatson suggested I look into the e= xtension length and pressure - thank you very much.
And, Angier Ames told me he solved t= he problem by disassembling the cylinder and putting a shim inside to limit= the down travel.
Thanks for that too.
 
Does anyone else have another sugges= tion.  I've measured my linkage already and am planning to add a&= nbsp;shim.
 
I can see where this problem might d= evelop if the locknut that holds the rod end becomes loose.  This woul= d allow the cylinder rod to unscrew itself in time making the extended leng= th greater.  This locknut is completely hidden when assembled.<= /FONT>
 
be safe,
 
Mark Ravinski  LNC2  1484 = hrs


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