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Lancair hit me with this about a year ago when I needed some nose gear =20
parts during the condition inspection.  It seemed even more =20
unreasonable because I had bought the LNC2 more than 2 years before =20
they asked for the re-registration fee.  (And I had bought parts from =20
them in that previous 2 year period without asking for the fee.)

They sort of have you over a barrel if you want parts, but they did =20
not withhold the parts.  They sold me the parts and asked me to =20
complete the registration.  They did not request the inspection =20
process or any additional training beyond what I had already done.  =20
Just the form and the fee.

Matt McManus
LNC2 360

Quoting Sky2high@aol.com:

> Tom,
>
> What is the whole document that this comes from.  I don't believe it
> applies to all aircraft since the Lancair website only references =20
> kits  currently
> in production.
>
> As a 320 builder/owner, I don't think (with not having seen the whole
> document) my aircraft would come under this "policy".
> Let's see what problems a new owner might face if he is not registered wit=
h
>  LII and has not paid the $300 fee:
> 1. No technical support (I don't quite understand what that means -  their
> isn't too much 200-300 series expertise there now).
> 2. Kit Components sells aircraft kits and certain parts - not a whole lot
> of them are available specific to 200-300 series aircraft.  Aerocrafters (=
a
> Kit Components related company)  will sell anything they have to  anyone.
> 3. Does an insurance company require a factory inspection of a home  built
> 200-300 aircraft or is the EAA Tech program adequate?
> 4. What is the endorsed training program for 200-300 series aircraft?
> 5. Support as provided by the Lancair web site (service bulletins, etc) is
> available to anyone that goes there.
> 6. The LML is always available if proper initial access is requested.
>
> And, how come I wasn't notified?  What am I, chopped liver?
>
> Scott Krueger
>
>
> In a message dated 5/30/2010 12:09:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> dudewanarace@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Rob  pointed out in a previous post that Lancair has changed their transfe=
r
> of  ownership policy.  I thought it would be a good idea to post the
> paragraph from that form that regards to their "Transfer Policy".   =20
> Interesting
> read..  I guess anybody who buys a used Lancair, of any type,  has to have
> the "Insurance inspection team" check said  aircraft.
>
> TRANSFER  POLICY
> L.I.I. requires that all Lancair International Inc. and Neico Aviation Inc=
.
>  aircraft and /or uncompleted kits which are sold, transferred, bartered,
> donated or in anyway given to any other person, corporation or other legal
> entity other than the original purchaser, shall first pay a $300.00 transf=
er
>  fee to Lancair International Inc. and agree to sign and return to Lancair
> International Inc. this Resale Agreement prior to having said aircraft
> registered with L.I.I. and prior to the new owner obtaining =20
> technical support,
> access to Kit Components Inc. for parts purchases, access to our builder=
=E2=80=99s
> site on the web or notification of any service bulletins. Further, the new
> purchaser of a flying Lancair aircraft or an uncompleted kit, and prior to
> the  aircraft being transferred, must agree to have either flying Lancair
> aircraft  or upon first flight of an uncompleted kit inspected by our
> insurance  inspection team. The new purchaser must
> also agree to participate in any  Lancair endorsed training program.  Only
> upon receipt of this agreement  and payment of the $300.00 transfer fee,
> will L.I.I. transfer and update files  so that service support can =20
> be continued.
>
> Tom  McNerney
> www.N54SG.com
>
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