X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 09:44:21 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.7) with ESMTP id 4331119 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 30 May 2010 20:02:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.97; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o4V01orA007000 for ; Sun, 30 May 2010 20:01:50 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.e10.88c881c (37590) for ; Sun, 30 May 2010 20:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-d24.mail.aol.com (magic-d24.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.158]) by cia-mb06.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB063-92d64c02fc6c265; Sun, 30 May 2010 20:01:48 -0400 From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <5914c.5d52a73b.3934566c@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 20:01:48 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Transfer Of Ownership X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5914c.5d52a73b.3934566c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.5 sub 155 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 205.188.70.69 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.146.158 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Sky2high@aol.com --part1_5914c.5d52a73b.3934566c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Tom, =20 What is the whole document that this comes from. I don't believe it =20 applies to all aircraft since the Lancair website only references kits cu= rrently=20 in production. =20 As a 320 builder/owner, I don't think (with not having seen the whole =20 document) my aircraft would come under this "policy". Let's see what problems a new owner might face if he is not registered wit= h=20 LII and has not paid the $300 fee: 1. No technical support (I don't quite understand what that means - their= =20 isn't too much 200-300 series expertise there now).=20 2. Kit Components sells aircraft kits and certain parts - not a whole lot= =20 of them are available specific to 200-300 series aircraft. Aerocrafters= (a =20 Kit Components related company) will sell anything they have to anyone. 3. Does an insurance company require a factory inspection of a home built= =20 200-300 aircraft or is the EAA Tech program adequate? 4. What is the endorsed training program for 200-300 series aircraft? 5. Support as provided by the Lancair web site (service bulletins, etc) is= =20 available to anyone that goes there. 6. The LML is always available if proper initial access is requested. =20 And, how come I wasn't notified? What am I, chopped liver? =20 Scott Krueger =20 =20 In a message dated 5/30/2010 12:09:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, =20 dudewanarace@yahoo.com writes: Rob pointed out in a previous post that Lancair has changed their transfe= r=20 of ownership policy. I thought it would be a good idea to post the =20 paragraph from that form that regards to their "Transfer Policy". Intere= sting=20 read.. I guess anybody who buys a used Lancair, of any type, has to have= =20 the "Insurance inspection team" check said aircraft. TRANSFER POLICY L.I.I. requires that all Lancair International Inc. and Neico Aviation Inc= .=20 aircraft and /or uncompleted kits which are sold, transferred, bartered,= =20 donated or in anyway given to any other person, corporation or other legal= =20 entity other than the original purchaser, shall first pay a $300.00 transf= er=20 fee to Lancair International Inc. and agree to sign and return to Lancair= =20 International Inc. this Resale Agreement prior to having said aircraft =20 registered with L.I.I. and prior to the new owner obtaining technical supp= ort, =20 access to Kit Components Inc. for parts purchases, access to our builder= =E2=80=99s =20 site on the web or notification of any service bulletins. Further, the new= =20 purchaser of a flying Lancair aircraft or an uncompleted kit, and prior to= =20 the aircraft being transferred, must agree to have either flying Lancair= =20 aircraft or upon first flight of an uncompleted kit inspected by our=20 insurance inspection team. The new purchaser must also agree to participate in any Lancair endorsed training program. Only= =20 upon receipt of this agreement and payment of the $300.00 transfer fee,= =20 will L.I.I. transfer and update files so that service support can be cont= inued. Tom McNerney www.N54SG.com=20 -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml --part1_5914c.5d52a73b.3934566c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <= FONT id=3Drole_document color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>
Tom,
 
What is the whole document that this comes from.  I don't believ= e it=20 applies to all aircraft since the Lancair website only reference= s kits=20 currently in production.
 
As a 320 builder/owner, I don't think (with not having seen the whole= =20 document) my aircraft would come under this "policy".
Let's see what problems a new owner might face if he is not registere= d with=20 LII and has not paid the $300 fee:
1. No technical support (I don't quite understand what that mean= s -=20 their isn't too much 200-300 series expertise there now). 
2. Kit Components sells aircraft kits and certain parts - not a whole= lot=20 of them are available specific to 200-300 series aircraft.  Aerocraft= ers (a=20 Kit Components related company)  will sell anything they have to=20 anyone.
3. Does an insurance company require a factory inspection of a= home=20 built 200-300 aircraft or is the EAA Tech program adequate?
4. What is the endorsed training program for 200-300 series aircraft?=
5. Support as provided by the Lancair web site (service bulletins, et= c) is=20 available to anyone that goes there.
6. The LML is always available if proper initial access is requested.=
 
And, how come I wasn't notified?  What am I, chopped liver?
 
Scott Krueger
 
In a message dated 5/30/2010 12:09:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 dudewanarace@yahoo.com writes:
Rob=20 pointed out in a previous post that Lancair has changed their transfer= of=20 ownership policy.  I thought it would be a good idea to post the=20 paragraph from that form that regards to their "Transfer Policy". = =20 Interesting read..  I guess anybody who buys a used Lancair, of any= type,=20 has to have the "Insurance inspection team" check said=20 aircraft.

TRANSFER=20 POLICY
          &n= bsp;=20 L.I.I. requires that all Lancair International Inc. and Neico Aviation= Inc.=20 aircraft and /or uncompleted kits which are sold, transferred, bartered,= =20 donated or in anyway given to any other person, corporation or other leg= al=20 entity other than the original purchaser, shall first pay a $300.00 tran= sfer=20 fee to Lancair International Inc. and agree to sign and return to Lancai= r=20 International Inc. this Resale Agreement prior to having said aircraft= =20 registered with L.I.I. and prior to the new owner obtaining technical su= pport,=20 access to Kit Components Inc. for parts purchases, access to our builder= =E2=80=99s=20 site on the web or notification of any service bulletins. Further, the= new=20 purchaser of a flying Lancair aircraft or an uncompleted kit, and prior= to the=20 aircraft being transferred, must agree to have either flying Lancair air= craft=20 or upon first flight of an uncompleted kit inspected by our insurance=20 inspection team. The new purchaser must
also agree to participate in= any=20 Lancair endorsed training program.  Only upon receipt of this agree= ment=20 and payment of the $300.00 transfer fee, will L.I.I. transfer and update= files=20 so that service support can be continued.
 
Tom=20 McNerney
www.N54SG.com

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