X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:54:52 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from raven.ravenwebhosting.com ([72.9.254.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.7) with ESMTPS id 4324572 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:37:24 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.9.254.67; envelope-from=paul@tbm700.com Received: from 6.21.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com ([68.204.21.6]:51735 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by raven.ravenwebhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGdSD-00027o-6j for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:36:49 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy Trim Tab Servo Speed Control From: paul miller In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:36:44 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - raven.ravenwebhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tbm700.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: I concur with Chris about reducing voltage. The right way to do this = would be with the full voltage and PWM (pulse width modulation) for the = speed. That way full torque is available but speed will vary. In my = past, I've done troubleshooting work on repairing the circuit boards on = Cessna autopilots and that is exactly how they operate. More = importantly, if anyone uses such a device at altitude, the full voltage = will prevent motor stall from the air gap thinning out. Many of the = older trim systems with dirty brushes and rotors fail at altitude but = work perfectly fine on the ground for that reason. If someone builds = it, I would add it or try it or buy it. Some additional comments on = trim from the Cessna autopilot: 1) Trim is set to run faster up than down by about 20% for runaway and = autopilot purposes 2) Airspeed controls the dual speed setting 3) on the C414A it took 32 seconds for full up to full down but that = number has a lot to do with control if the trim starts to runaway. My = Legacy is 10 seconds and that is too fast. If anyone wants the 28v circuit for such a system, I have the old = manuals somewhere and the parts are simple discreet components with a = 1000 Hz oscillator for PWM frequency. =20 Great thread, hope something comes of it. Paul Miller L2K