X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:58:13 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.119] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with SMTP id 4180082 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:34:40 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.119; envelope-from=paulhershorin@bellsouth.net Received: (qmail 71564 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Mar 2010 20:34:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=bellsouth.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0MqG2DDGn//pRa2hY4lkfQO+fb3ialsEViKtWV/u7d+1isBsLEd6LU5htWyCHvZpJOhINTXYzV6LZg97CrvHHuuqU5egZdQXRo0twMr0v+sx9DFywzsAyemNqgcKdfXJWw6qtY8zLGWZf04+VudcihyCs97ubvvk8jCaKlvH1KI=; X-Original-Message-ID: <446318.70255.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jGEa364VM1lCCO0r9ZoAmKsn5HOiHk9M.eNinUcI1YYZ4U1 W9l8a1TgUcwBiKMQTvTI7J2F7IbOBnjgJL3zenatC6y9YUKu3_csEv4krm__ T9siEe06bYYy3hht.JtsgQL07ERw5DdNpUc1d3h9fE5MmG4296ZfW4LEVCOQ COcpKUmboaUkjF5BgkrMBPavN5P73LuCXTB69QE9zIDZyPUgvjIS4AOz7ebu _GFF6w52hrvoDvnuH83oLT58CqJrDbkWrwjyGUV92lKsF0JExeerTHeMbcRY OFnZHM9nISQGv65Gr_wVYhdbNAC021WKS.Khxnj_YULzceEZEezlYnUUnxiU 3uHY07qi9Zfbg5Q-- Received: from [74.233.176.120] by web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:34:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: X-Original-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:34:02 -0700 (PDT) From: PAUL HERSHORIN Subject: Re: [LML] FAA safety warning in the news X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1669088994-1269635642=:70255" --0-1669088994-1269635642=:70255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right on Joe!=0APaul Hershorin=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________________= __=0AFrom: "marv@lancair.net" =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.ne= t=0ASent: Fri, March 26, 2010 8:30:49 AM=0ASubject: [LML] FAA safety warnin= g in the news=0A=0A=0APosted for "Joe Bartels" :=0A=0A=0A= Fox news, as "fair and balanced" as ever, has a rather interesting article = =0Awhich I hope each and everyone of you will respond to.=A0=A0It is locate= d at =0Ahttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/25/faa-issues-safety-warning-home= made-planes/#discussion-form. =0A=A0You will be able to express your views = which I hope will not inflame but =0Ainstead inform those additional reader= s who peruse your comments.=A0=A0Mine is as =0Afollows:=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0Pi= lots who read your article will know that the key to safe operation of an = =0Aaircraft, any aircraft, is training. We at Lancair insist on training. E= d =0ASmith, the pilot of the aircraft which lost its propeller, successfull= y =0Amaintained control of an aircraft which was crippled as a result of an= engine =0Afailure. The fact that Ed and his passenger are alive today is a= s a result of =0Athe training he received. The FAA elected to concentrate t= heir concerns on the =0Afact that our aircraft kits produce very fast aircr= aft which generally =0Anecessitates a higher landing speed. What does the F= AA say about the many =0Aother certified aircraft which have stall speeds h= igher than that of the =0ALancair design? Also, how is the FAA addressing t= he Lancair Evolution kit =0Awhich has a stall speed of less than 61 knots d= uring normal operations? I =0Athink that sensationalism sells and facts are= picked through to produce =0Asensationalism. Let's hear from pilots and no= t news men and women that can =0Atell us what they are first taught when le= arning to fly.=0A=A0=0A=A0Our very freedoms are under attack from all sides= and all political parties. =0A=A0One might believe that term limits for po= liticians is the answer.=A0=A0I say we =0Aneed term limits on the bureaucra= ts who are entrenched long before the =0Apoliticians we elect take office a= nd remain well after that politician is =0Avoted out.=A0=A0It use to be tha= t "To the victor remained the spoils" as that term =0Awas used when politic= ians kicked out the bureaucrats that in government prior =0Ato their electi= on.=A0=A0It would be far better if our politicians brought their =0Aown bur= eaucrats with them when they arrived in Washington and then had the =0Awhol= e mess kicked out upon their loosing office.=A0=A0We need fresh thought in = our =0Agovernment from all levels..not just from those temporary office hol= ders we =0Aelect.=A0=A0As an attorney I see the changes in law that take aw= ay more and more =0Acreativity and personal freedoms.=A0=A0Be vigilent my f= riends.=A0=A0It is time to =0Avoice our concerns as one to Washington.=A0= =A0I spent more than 3 years fighting =0Ato keep the FAA at bay.=A0=A0I see= this as retaliatory to some extent.=A0=A0I asked =0Athe FAA to help us wit= h training issues...they come up with citing the obvious =0Aas it relates t= o aerodynamics.=A0=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0Lancair will soon ask for a rule change th= at will allow our customers to =0Aenjoy more commercial assistance in build= ing their dream aircraft.=A0=A0No, this =0Ais not to make more money for La= ncair...it is to help people enjoy the freedom =0Ato have a custom built ai= rcraft just like they can enjoy a custom built house, =0Aboat, car or any o= ther luxury item.=A0=A0This effort will keep our friends who =0Aprovide leg= itimate builder assistance in business and provide a more =0Aprofessional a= nd safe aircraft built from our kits.=A0=A0I hope you all will =0Aassist in= supporting this effort when the time comes by writing in support to =0Athe= FAA, your congressman and senator as well as the EAA.=A0=A0I will keep you= =0Ainformed as to our progress.=A0=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0I have rambled far too mu= ch.=A0=A0Hope to see you all at Sun & Fun.=0A=A0=0A=A0Joe=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0= Joseph C. Bartels, CEO=0A=A0Lancair International, Inc.=0A=0A--=0A=0AFor ar= chives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --0-1669088994-1269635642=:70255 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Right on Joe!
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Paul Hershorin
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=0AFrom: "marv@lancair.net" <marv@lancair.net>= ;
To: lml@lancaironline.= net
Sent: Fri, March 26,= 2010 8:30:49 AM
Subject: [LML] FAA safety warning in the news

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Posted fo= r "Joe Bartels" <JoeB@lancair.com>:


Fox news, as "fair and= balanced" as ever, has a rather interesting article
which I hope each = and everyone of you will respond to.  It is located at
http:/= /www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/25/faa-issues-safety-warning-homemade-planes/#d= iscussion-form.
 You will be able to express your views which I ho= pe will not inflame but
instead inform those additional readers who per= use your comments.  Mine is as
follows:
 
  Pilots who read your article will know that the key to safe operati= on of an
aircraft, any aircraft, is training. We at Lancair insist on t= raining. Ed
Smith, the pilot of the aircraft which lost its propeller, = successfully
maintained control of an aircraft which was crippled as a = result of an engine
failure. The fact that Ed and his passenger are alive today is as a result of
the training he receiv= ed. The FAA elected to concentrate their concerns on the
fact that our = aircraft kits produce very fast aircraft which generally
necessitates a= higher landing speed. What does the FAA say about the many
other certi= fied aircraft which have stall speeds higher than that of the
Lancair d= esign? Also, how is the FAA addressing the Lancair Evolution kit
which = has a stall speed of less than 61 knots during normal operations? I
thi= nk that sensationalism sells and facts are picked through to produce
se= nsationalism. Let's hear from pilots and not news men and women that can tell us what they are first taught when learning to fly.
 
&nb= sp;Our very freedoms are under attack from all sides and all political part= ies.
 One might believe that term limits for politicians is the an= swer.  I say we
need term limits on the bureaucrats who are entrenched long before the
politicians we elect take office an= d remain well after that politician is
voted out.  It use to = be that "To the victor remained the spoils" as that term
was used when = politicians kicked out the bureaucrats that in government prior
to thei= r election.  It would be far better if our politicians brought th= eir
own bureaucrats with them when they arrived in Washington and then = had the
whole mess kicked out upon their loosing office.  We = need fresh thought in our
government from all levels..not just from tho= se temporary office holders we
elect.  As an attorney I see t= he changes in law that take away more and more
creativity and personal = freedoms.  Be vigilent my friends.  It is time to
v= oice our concerns as one to Washington.  I spent more than 3 year= s fighting
to keep the FAA at bay.  I see this as retaliatory to some extent.  I asked
the FAA to help us with= training issues...they come up with citing the obvious
as it relates t= o aerodynamics.  
 
 Lancair will soon ask for a = rule change that will allow our customers to
enjoy more commercial assi= stance in building their dream aircraft.  No, this
is not to = make more money for Lancair...it is to help people enjoy the freedom
to= have a custom built aircraft just like they can enjoy a custom built house= ,
boat, car or any other luxury item.  This effort will keep = our friends who
provide legitimate builder assistance in business and p= rovide a more
professional and safe aircraft built from our kits. =  I hope you all will
assist in supporting this effort when the tim= e comes by writing in support to
the FAA, your congressman and senator = as well as the EAA.  I will keep you
informed as to our progress.  
 
 I have rambled far too much.&= nbsp; Hope to see you all at Sun & Fun.
 
 Joe
=  
 
 Joseph C. Bartels, CEO
 Lancair Internati= onal, Inc.
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