X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:26:19 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtpoutwbe04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([208.109.78.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with SMTP id 4126724 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:25:49 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.109.78.206; envelope-from=jsabot@oxforditconsult.com Received: (qmail 8124 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 14:25:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (72.167.218.132) by smtpoutwbe04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 14:25:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 22584 invoked by uid 99); 16 Feb 2010 14:25:15 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 99.51.241.150 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 5.2.05 X-Original-Message-Id: <20100216072514.a7dfe48c7bd3403c1872ee1bd38b3a19.99bcd17456.wbe@email03.secureserver.net> From: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Do I need Co-pilot Rudder Pedals X-Original-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:25:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0
Matt,

Just fyi, if you remove the return= springs from the passenger side pedals, they flop forward and then add no = drag to the rudder system.

This was what I was to= ld by Justin at Lancair to do and it worked great.

Jay Sabot
Legacy N26XY
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Subject: [LML] Re: Do I need Co-pilot Rudder Pedals
From: Matt Reeves <mattreeves@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, February 16, 2010 9:15 am
To: lml@lancaironline.net

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I have adjustables on both sides and would never do it again on the pass= enger side.  Never used them.  Also, it's much harder to push the= rudder pedals when both sides are installed because you are working agains= t 4 springs instead of 2.
 
This is in my 320.&n= bsp; Really, how much "training" are you going to do in your Legacy?  = I think you might be better off letting your passengers train better in a C= essna or Piper.  As Lance always used to say, "you just don't use the = rudder in the air."   He was right.
 
= I never use it except on takeoff and climb out.  That's it.  = ;  Except I do use the toe brakes to steer on the ground.   = I guess this would be a place to have dual rudders but even then, it's not = that hard to practice taxiing on the ground if someone is going to switch t= o the left side.
 
My vote :  NO
 
You can always add them later if it's really something = that bothers you..  Save the weight.
 
Matt=

--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Stan Fields <sdfields@austin.rr.com&g= t; wrote:

From: Stan Fields = <sdfields@austin.rr.com>
Subject: [LML] Do I need Co-pilot Rudder = Pedals
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 2:3= 0 PM

I'm building a Legacy and I'm trying to complete the Rudder con= trols. At 6'3" I need as much knee and leg room as possible without resting= my feet on the exhaust manifold. So, I'm installing the StarFlight hanging= rudder pedals. My question to the group is this:

Should I get bo= th pilot and co-pilot rudder pedals?

- Will I need the co-pilot= controls for training?

- Many have said they would not let anyone m= ake a right seat landing in their Legacy and most of my passengers could no= t land the plane regardless.

- Is the value of a single rudder pedal= Legacy materially lower than one with dual controls?

- I am instal= ling an air conditioner evaporator/blower behind the panel and could possib= ly use the space.

- Are there any other considerations?

Stan<= br>http://www.lancairlegacybuilder.com