X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:44:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from gateway13.websitewelcome.com ([67.18.72.140] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with SMTP id 4024383 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:10:57 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.18.72.140; envelope-from=JohnB@Bohn-Tech.com Received: (qmail 30199 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2009 21:25:03 -0000 Received: from gator667.hostgator.com (174.132.148.226) by gateway13.websitewelcome.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2009 21:25:03 -0000 Received: from [75.133.153.226] (port=4818 helo=Johnsony) by gator667.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NL18V-0003x0-HQ for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:10:19 -0600 From: "John Bohn" X-Original-To: References: Subject: RE: [LML] Tone on list X-Original-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:10:21 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <1E137FE0BF6948C5AA15F6C565073793@AGCEngineering.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0116_01CA7E61.E30BF6A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acp+kLrKm3WwWKMURCukcpuEdIDChQAAzTVw X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator667.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - Bohn-Tech.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01CA7E61.E30BF6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Years ago while in the Air Force my commander said something that I've used (tried to) over the years. "Praise in Public, Criticize in Private"...good advise. John C. Bohn Direct(cell) 503-887-2933 Home- 573-760-1090 _____ From: Bill [mailto:n5zq@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:41 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Tone on list Jim, I couldn't agree more. Excellent points. Bill Harrelson N5ZQ 320 1,750 hrs N6ZQ IV under construction ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Scales To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: [LML] Tone on list In my opinion the tone on the list recently, in a couple of the threads, has gotten pretty abrasive. Rather than abandon a resource that I have utilized for a long time, I thought I would make a couple of comments. The speculating, catty, "mine is bigger", smearing, arrogant attitudes that are showing up on the list miss the mark of courtesy and respect by a wide margin. Seems that every so often there are those who feel the need to puff themselves up and put others down. In my opinion it really defeats the purpose of the list and turns other listers off. I'm guessing it also greatly inhibits the willingness of a lot of people to participate. After about 3 back and forth attempts to change the opponent's point of view it would seem that agreeing to disagree would be the adult thing to do. When all is said and done it really is each individual's right to make his or her own decisions. I am sure this post will offend some people. It will be interesting to see just who is insulted. To summarize, I participate because I want to be the best, safest, smartest pilot I can be. I believe most of us hang around for the same reasons. It doesn't do me or any other lister any good if the tone that is used to present the information prevents the information from being received. Now would be the time to quote Rodney King........but I will resist. My $.02. Fire away......... Jim Scales ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01CA7E61.E30BF6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Years ago while in the Air Force my commander said something that I’ve used (tried to) over the = years.

 

“Praise in Public, Criticize = in Private”…..good advise…

 

John C. Bohn

Direct(cell) = 503-887-2933

Home- = 573-760-1090

From: Bill [mailto:n5zq@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December = 15, 2009 7:41 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Tone = on list

 

Jim, I couldn't agree more. Excellent points.

 

Bill Harrelson

N5ZQ 320 1,750 hrs

N6ZQ  IV under construction

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Scales

Sent: Monday, = December 14, 2009 10:52 PM

Subject: [LML] Tone on list

 

In my opinion the tone on the list recently, in a couple of the threads, has gotten pretty abrasive.  Rather than abandon a = resource that I have utilized for a long time, I thought I would make a couple of comments.

 

The speculating, catty, "mine is bigger", smearing, arrogant = attitudes that are showing up on the list miss the mark of courtesy and = respect by a wide margin.

 

Seems that every so often there are those who feel the need to puff themselves up and put others down.  In my opinion it really defeats = the purpose of the list and turns other listers off.  I'm guessing it = also greatly inhibits the willingness of a lot of people to = participate.

 

After about 3 back and forth attempts to change the opponent's point of view = it would seem that agreeing to disagree would be the adult thing to do.  = When all is said and done it really is each individual's right to make his = or her own decisions. 

 

I am sure this post will offend some people.  It will be interesting to see just who is insulted.

 

To summarize, I participate because I want to be the best, safest, smartest = pilot I can be.  I believe most of us hang around for the same = reasons.  It doesn’t do me or any other lister any good if the tone that is = used to present the information prevents the information from being = received. 

 

Now would be the time to quote Rodney King........but I will = resist.

 

My $.02.  Fire away.........

 

Jim Scales

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