X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.68] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with ESMTP id 4020919 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:16:25 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.68; envelope-from=rtitsworth@mindspring.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=hUNe9PPk5ZJZ77x/A2fNjdtUzuqv5DMWo6cgG4lSA8HH7Cg02jx9wkZvEDBfJqFM; h=Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.238.59.21] (helo=ply01) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NKOpB-0001K3-D1 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:15:49 -0500 From: "Rick Titsworth" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: RE: [LML] io-550 vs. tsio-550 differences? X-Original-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:15:49 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <003f01ca7d3d$48889c70$6400a8c0@ply01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acp9OggLLUim5bF5QemV8/I9h7QXYAAAWVZA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ELNK-Trace: b17f11247b2ac8f0a79dc4b33984cbaa0a9da525759e2654a1f96fd67b0d7e69b40480be4ef78d613ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.238.59.21 Subtle item, but the sniffle value is also different. Also obvious, but not mentioned, the intercoolers and associated plumbing. I can't imaging buying all the individual turbo items at TCM spare part costs would be any advantage. For example, the small sniffle value alone is $1,000. You'll also need a strategy/approach on the sonic nozzles. Popular opinion is that they are needed (required) for the waste gate to function properly (dynamic response issue) and/or to prevent turbo stalls. However, that means you're likely just bleeding some pressurized (boosted) air overboard, which is essentially wasted fuel economy. -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Matt losangeles Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:52 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] io-550 vs. tsio-550 differences? Does anybody know the differences between the io-550 vs the tsio-550? So far this is what I have determined: io-550 8.5 compression vs tsio-550 7.5 compression different fuel pump on tsio with aneroid and a reference port different injectors with reference ports on tsio tsio has a scavange pump lines and turbos. different exhaust obviously tsio has wastegate and fancy expensive stuff to control it tsio has a different throttle body part# The reason I ask is I am trying to create a turbo normalized io-550 and I am not sure if I should get an io-550 core and add the tsio fuel pump, injectors, scavange pump and turbos. I could also get a tsio-550 core and put different pistons/cylinders on it. I suspect the cylinders are the same and the pistons are the only difference. I also talked with Continental about this and supposedly the throttle body is different between the two but they could not say why. Only that they had different part#'s. They did say that something as simple as a 45 vs. a 90 degree fitting or different color paint can cause a different part# with their stuff so there is a chance that the throttle body on the two is mechanically the same. I was wondering if anyone knew the differences between the two. Also, which core would likely be the better to get, io-550 or the tsio-550. This engine is going on a Legacy so I am comparing the io-550G or N vs. the tsio-550c. Thanks for any info you might have on this. Matt -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html