X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:21:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.98.42.15] (HELO smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with ESMTP id 3999984 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:40:27 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.98.42.15; envelope-from=rmitch1@hughes.net Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AAA0235C204F for ; Thu, 3 Dec 2009 04:39:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 30,2,0,e104674d42859171,b411e116ac38a5be,rmitch1@hughes.net,lml@lancaironline.net,RULES_HIT:10:355:379:509:539:541:542:599:600:800:901:960:962:966:967:972:973:983:988:989:1155:1160:1189:1208:1212:1221:1260:1308:1309:1313:1314:1345:1359:1394:1395:1431:1436:1437:1515:1516:1517:1521:1535:1543:1575:1588:1589:1592:1594:1711:1730:1776:1792:2068:2069:2194:2196:2198:2199:2200:2201:2379:2525:2551:2552:2553:2557:2568:2628:2682:2685:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3280:3354:3521:3522:3523:3585:3586:3636:3642:3743:3769:3770:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4118:4250:4321:4385:5007:6114:6117:6119:6120:6238:7520:7576:7679:7809:7901:7903:8501:8518:8599:8603:8634:8660:8957:8985:9010:9025:9040:9388:9391:9468:9545,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Session-Marker: 726D6974636831404855474845532E4E4554 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 7076 Received: from SonyVaioSZ (unknown [67.143.117.103]) (Authenticated sender: rmitch1@HUGHES.NET) by omf09.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 3 Dec 2009 04:39:48 +0000 (UTC) From: "Robert Mitchell" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] GPS Outage X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:39:42 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <722D46067CF043FCB98FC7D58727EDBD@SonyVaioSZ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA73A0.5AC482B0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpzXPnhMZzO/7VoTrmck85g9j69PAAc40IA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16385 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA73A0.5AC482B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another GPS anecdote: Last spring in Phoenix, when Obama was in town I was driving near PHX (Skyharbour) with my Garmin 496 on the dash. Coincidentally I had my car radio on and happened to be getting live coverage of Obama's departure when I noticed loss of GPS signal that lasted more than the usual couple of seconds. I turned to the signal page on the 496 and had one bar indicating full, no other bars were showing. I monitored this and exactly 20 minetes after Obama lifted off in Airforce One, the bars (about 8) all came on suddenly like someone flipped a switch. I called FAA, (not Tracon) and was told to "call DOD". I also checked the TFR's and found that it's end time was about 10 more minetes after the GPS signal came back. Bob Mitchell N56SH _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Sky2high@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:37 AM To: lml Subject: [LML] GPS Outage Even this didn't show a problem http://www.raimprediction.net/ac90-100/ Grayhawk In a message dated 12/1/2009 7:52:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, grabiel@freeway.net writes: I live in Northern Lower Mi. Based at a Joint civil military base. Today I flew across to the west side of the state. Lost both 430 and 396 signals. All the way over and most of the way back! Could not even use the VOR in the 430! Froze with a big yellow caution sign! Called Garmin, first question they ask- Are you near any military installations? Hmm! Anybody else have similar experiences? I really don't think it is my system. Don Grabiel Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -----Original Message----- From: Sky2high@aol.com Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:31:04 To: lml Subject: [LML] Lancairs afoot! -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA73A0.5AC482B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another GPS = anecdote:
 
Last spring = in Phoenix,=20 when Obama was in town I was driving near PHX (Skyharbour) with my = Garmin 496 on=20 the dash. Coincidentally I had my car radio on and happened to be = getting live=20 coverage of Obama's departure when I noticed loss of GPS signal that = lasted more=20 than the usual couple of seconds.  I turned to the signal page on = the 496=20 and had one bar indicating full, no other bars were showing.  I = monitored=20 this and exactly 20 minetes after Obama lifted off in Airforce One, the = bars=20 (about 8) all came on suddenly like someone flipped a switch. =20
 
I called = FAA, (not=20 Tracon) and was told to "call DOD".  I also checked the TFR's and = found=20 that it's end time was about 10 more minetes after the GPS signal came=20 back.
 
Bob = Mitchell
N56SH
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From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of=20 Sky2high@aol.com
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Even this didn't show a problem
 
http://www.raimpredictio= n.net/ac90-100/
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 12/1/2009 7:52:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 grabiel@freeway.net writes:
I = live in=20 Northern Lower Mi. Based at a Joint civil military base. Today I flew = across=20 to the west side of the state. Lost both 430 and 396 signals. All the = way over=20 and most of the way back! Could not even use the VOR in the 430! Froze = with a=20 big yellow caution sign! Called Garmin, first question they ask- Are = you near=20 any military installations? Hmm! Anybody else have similar = experiences? I=20 really don't think it is my system.  Don Grabiel
Sent from my=20 BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

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