X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:52:31 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com ([209.85.218.211] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3691084 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:50:55 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.211; envelope-from=keith.smith@gmail.com Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so3564128bwz.19 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:50:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ddTEVU3vz9fBmW0EycJjOdG1b28uRTCxae0gEwGWqg3z27/N/qOIqA0ZTjAeVGVwo6 tx/rLjzm2GXyoZ8a8KMU0ibzy5t9LtwoBLHfBWhuQZUOlmtBlq5K76aJeLq5YM86cK8z 4Xd9Gc7106Oc4GcIM+AknUMUaJBllF3vlLWnQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.9 with SMTP id y9mr6390422fap.61.1245685818637; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:50:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:50:18 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <705847490906220850n2addd894wa6c33088e1e3866b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: soft field ops in 360 with standard gear From: Keith Smith X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c923d7b8bf75046cf1d422 --001636c923d7b8bf75046cf1d422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excellent responses, as usual, thanks guys. Bill, I did a quick search on Google after making my post and found a couple of the old LML posts, but I will do a specific search of the archives to see what I can find. That's a good suggestion. I also appreciate your detailed repost of that soft field takeoff information. I can visualize all that you are saying, and have promptly decided that I will hold off on attempting this on grass for now. I only have 4 grass takeoffs/landings worth of experience so far, and they were in a very forgiving 172. If anything, I will eventually start practicing the soft field techniques on a long, wide paved runway until I feel comfortable with it. I suspect that the precise elevator control will take some practice. I'm still getting used to the sensitivity of the elevator during a normal takeoff with a passenger on board (considerably different than when single pilot, due to the CG change). I thought I had a good feel for 'touchy' elevators from hundreds of hours of RC glider flying...but apparently it doesn't translate to full size airplanes :) The point about the $18k taxi was also well-taken...it pays to know the field very well. Even then, I doubt I can know for sure if there will be 2" soft spot that I may have missed in the past. Thanks again, everyone. I'm up to about 19 hours in the 360, and loving every minute of it. I was on a VFR flight after getting the KX-155 looked at, climbing at 750fpm at 155KIAS at 6000ft....it still blows me away. The performance out of a 180hp powerplant is just amazing. I took a flight in a 172 a few weeks ago as a safety pilot for a buddy....it felt like we were standing still during the climbout! I feel very lucky to be part of this club. Regards, Keith --001636c923d7b8bf75046cf1d422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent responses, as usual, thanks guys.

Bill, I did a quick sear= ch on Google after making my post and found a couple of the old LML posts, = but I will do a specific search of the archives to see what I can find. Tha= t's a good suggestion.

I also appreciate your detailed repost of that soft field takeoff infor= mation.=A0 I can visualize all that you are saying, and have promptly decid= ed that I will hold off on attempting this on grass for now.=A0 I only have= 4 grass takeoffs/landings worth of experience so far, and they were in a v= ery forgiving 172.

If anything, I will eventually start practicing the soft field techniqu= es on a long, wide paved runway until I feel comfortable with it. I suspect= that the precise elevator control will take some practice.=A0 I'm stil= l getting used to the sensitivity of the elevator during a normal takeoff w= ith a passenger on board (considerably different than when single pilot, du= e to the CG change).=A0 I thought I had a good feel for 'touchy' el= evators from hundreds of hours of RC glider flying...but apparently it does= n't translate to full size airplanes :)

The point about the $18k taxi was also well-taken...it pays to know the= field very well. Even then, I doubt I can know for sure if there will be 2= " soft spot that I may have missed in the past.

Thanks again, = everyone.=A0 I'm up to about 19 hours in the 360, and loving every minu= te of it.=A0 I was on a VFR flight after getting the KX-155 looked at, clim= bing at 750fpm at 155KIAS at 6000ft....it still blows me away. The performa= nce out of a 180hp powerplant is just amazing.=A0 I took a flight in a 172 = a few weeks ago as a safety pilot for a buddy....it felt like we were stand= ing still during the climbout! I feel very lucky to be part of this club.
Regards,
=A0Keith
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