X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:56:36 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc3-s13.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.151] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3690424 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:50:41 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.151; envelope-from=bill_kennedy_3@hotmail.com Received: from COL108-W23 ([65.55.34.135]) by col0-omc3-s13.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:50:06 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: bill_kennedy_3@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c8c9e8a7-6505-4ca7-b9fd-22d80a306999_" X-Originating-IP: [71.111.124.220] From: Bill Kennedy X-Original-To: Subject: RE: [LML] soft field ops in 360 with standard gear X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:50:06 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2009 00:50:06.0538 (UTC) FILETIME=[62BD8AA0:01C9F2D3] --_c8c9e8a7-6505-4ca7-b9fd-22d80a306999_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes=2C I've often landed on smooth grass strips. I avoid anything that's no= t known be well cared for and "smooth". I think prop clearance is a big iss= ue. The consequences of a prop strike are much greater=2C and the chances o= f occurrence are much higher=2C than a gear door ding. I use "standard" sho= rt field procedures=2C not drastically different from normal takeoff proced= ures. If there is any chance of it being rough or rutted=2C I'd go someplac= e else. I went to one strip and walked it before I flew in=2C just to make = sure. If I had to make a precautionary landing=2C I'd be happier to try a g= rass strip than a highway.=20 It is reasonable to operate from well maintained grass strips.=20 I don't have outback gear either. Bill Kennedy N42BK=2C 565 hours To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun=2C 21 Jun 2009 20:30:32 -0400 From: keith.smith@gmail.com Subject: [LML] soft field ops in 360 with standard gear Shortly before transitioning to the Lancair=2C I discovered the joy of soft= field operations. After years of practicing soft field takeoffs and landin= gs from paved runways=2C it was great to put it to use on some real grass s= trips. Now that I'm exclusively flying the Lancair=2C I've found myself wondering = if it would be reasonable to try to occasionally operate from well-maintain= ed grass strips. My 360 does not have the outback gear. I'm concerned abo= ut: 1) prop clearance 2) gear door clearance 3) VHF antenna clearance 4) standard soft field takeoff procedure (does it like getting off the gro= und early and sitting in ground effect?) Does anyone have any tips on operating in and out of grass strips with a 36= 0=2C particularly if you don't have the outback gear? For now=2C I'm staying away from this until I learn more about it. Keith --_c8c9e8a7-6505-4ca7-b9fd-22d80a306999_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes=2C I've often landed on smooth grass strips. I avoid anything that's no= t known be well cared for and "smooth". I think prop clearance is a big iss= ue. The consequences of a prop strike are much greater=2C and the chances o= f occurrence are much higher=2C than a gear door ding. I use "standard" sho= rt field procedures=2C not drastically different from normal takeoff proced= ures. If there is any chance of it being rough or rutted=2C I'd go someplac= e else. I went to one strip and walked it before I flew in=2C just to make = sure. If I had to make a precautionary landing=2C I'd be happier to try a g= rass strip than a highway.

It is reasonable to operate from well ma= intained grass strips.

I don't have outback gear either.

Bil= l Kennedy
N42BK=2C 565 hours

To: lml@lanc= aironline.net
Date: Sun=2C 21 Jun 2009 20:30:32 -0400
From: keith.smi= th@gmail.com
Subject: [LML] soft field ops in 360 with standard gear
=
Shortly before transitioning to the Lancair=2C I discovered the joy of = soft field operations. After years of practicing soft field takeoffs and la= ndings from paved runways=2C it was great to put it to use on some real gra= ss strips.

Now that I'm exclusively flying the Lancair=2C I've found myself wonder= ing if it would be reasonable to try to occasionally operate from well-main= tained grass strips. =3B My 360 does not have the outback gear. =3B= I'm concerned about:
1) prop clearance
2) gear door clearance
3) VHF antenna clearance
= 4) standard soft field takeoff procedure =3B (does it like getting off = the ground early and sitting in ground effect?)

Does anyone have any= tips on operating in and out of grass strips with a 360=2C particularly if= you don't have the outback gear?

For now=2C I'm staying away from this until I learn more about it.
<= br>Keith
= --_c8c9e8a7-6505-4ca7-b9fd-22d80a306999_--