Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #50935
From: Frederick Moreno <frederickmoreno@bigpond.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: FW: [LML] Tridair fasteners
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:31:46 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

I used these same fasteners on my Lancair IV having learned about them from Brent Regan.

 

 I selected them instead of using hinges along the side of the cowl because I modified my cowl inlets such that the side seam between bottom and top cowl is no longer straight, but curves up at the front. 

 

I also selected them because I have incorporated cowl flaps to control the cooling air flow, and when closed, they increase the separation force between top and bottom cowl requiring a lot of shear resistance.  The Tridair fasteners (part numbers from Bill, below) have exceptional shear strength.  They are produced by Alcoa which has a huge aerospace fastening business based in Southern California.  Alcoa bought all the big name fasteners, put them under one roof, but kept the original brand names.  They were probably responsible for the 787 fastener delays. 

 

Some cautions:

 

1)     As I recall the studs are $18 apiece and the receptacles are $24 apiece or $42 a set.   That was a few years ago.  

2)     They require precision drilled hole for the stud.

3)     They use a quad lead thread and little engagement tabs on the bottom of the studs which engage a spring loaded ratchet in the socket.   You only tighten them finger tight.   They are locked by the spring loaded ratchet.  Do not over tighten!

4)     Don’t ever force them into their hole.  You will damage the threads and/or damage the little engagement tabs on the bottom of the stud.  If the stud does not go in, try some other studs to get the alignment corrected (it must be dead nuts right on the money), wiggle the cowl, but DON”T FORCE THEM.   Been there, done that once, and at $18 each, that was enough.  Putting your cowl on will require a bit of extra patience as they can be fiddly, particularly if the temperature changes such as can happen when the top cowl is in the shade, bottom cowl is in the sun, and you then try to put them together.   As I said, patience.

5)     If you are not in the USA, fuggetaboutit.  They are DOD export controlled, and can not be shipped outside of the USA without a Dept. of Commerce permit.  Really!  Been there, done that too. 

 

Fred Moreno

 

 

Hi Harper.

 

I just recently looked into these fastners and found them from:

 

Johnson Aerospace

28294 Constellation Rd.

Santa Clarita, CA 91355

661-702-9949

 

I spoke with Margo Bryant. 

 

The part numbers are:

 

CA1820-2

CA1810


Good luck.

 

Bill Burger
 

 

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