X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:49:56 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web80010.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.114] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with SMTP id 3571515 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:36:54 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.114; envelope-from=bu131@swbell.net Received: (qmail 92232 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2009 16:36:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=swbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z+9MwXqBRWSR8bdmybFg+kM0u8M5NKAa1WV1LNserxyy9Be6YVefPC/4Yr17u2fkCKrS7FJSSFCHW8uqIVnmt2H1G4gMj+mEVKkMzZaFNrO4O+2HJ27scIpOqj+UwmaPZ6SmP/IumPSaJhi07ZT1K1HE31nXimyTQN+VtKjTklE=; X-Original-Message-ID: <672175.86577.qm@web80010.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: a3LO220VM1kLeerwJ8ChK.ui42YkCvMNZ78KCmYMOUF4GheaDs9eWYePrXDsqEVsbU0CePZOcF7Remw4S0EgneBm5V.8uCaoi8P13wXLtfJ.tvy_wsVtOkrM4M7YtbgFSjGBJfODZGKQbFIXnqydQ3hcakpxNGKCQ5GMw2PwmJfqgIWXX2wWsQM.vRUbJ00RjUbzHpW3MtHcK6Tk2_uV0PAdBBKf.Hr_yBCD44SYIwPHVTkssuvlHFiG_FBmQorBaStl8tr2r2fSjXmWs3DCjBQaBAIyFw6bBpNf1Mp5ML4MtMfWWlGWpBeGx5kOYylDopFVkfZUauns6IdzR0iWrdBxVHMJ9_cEDuM- Received: from [70.254.187.254] by web80010.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:36:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: X-Original-Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Dr Andre Katz Subject: Re: [LML] Re: I wish I had used a torque wrench X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1114835644-1239035778=:86577" --0-1114835644-1239035778=:86577 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i need one too where do you get one=0Aandres=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________= ________________=0AFrom: "vtailjeff@aol.com" =0ATo: lml@= lancaironline.net=0ASent: Monday, April 6, 2009 9:45:06 AM=0ASubject: [LML]= Re: I wish I had used a torque wrench=0A=0AJohn,=0A=0ASounds like you need= a low profile oil quick drain from Mark Sherman. =0A=0AJeff=0A=0A=0A-----O= riginal Message-----=0AFrom: John Hafen =0ATo: lml@lan= caironline.net=0ASent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 6:41 am=0ASubject: [LML] I wish I ha= d used a torque wrench =0A=0A=0ASo there I am on my crawler, finishing up a= n oil change on N413AJ that has a total of 110 hours on her. =C2=A0I=E2=80= =99m putting the plug in the oil pan and its nice and tight. =C2=A0I think = (here is where I started to get into trouble) =E2=80=9CI want this nice and= tight so it doesn=E2=80=99t break the safety wire and fall out in flight, = jettisoning all the oil which freezes the engine and I have to crash land s= omewhere....=E2=80=9D=0A=0ASo one more little twist on the plug, and OOOOOO= Ops! =C2=A0It went just a little bit too far.=0A=0AI don=E2=80=99t need to = tell you the level of disappointment that flooded over me as I contemplated= that I had just stripped the threads in the oil sump pan.=0A=0ASo I atoned= for my sin.=0A=0AI bought a new sump, hired some help, disconnected lots o= f stuff, jacked the engine up just high enough to remove the old pan and sl= ip it out the front and scrape off the old gasket and install a new pan wit= h gasket. =C2=A0Then lower the engine back into place, call Lancair to see = how to torque the engine mounting bolts (4 50 =E2=80=93 500 inch pounds), t= hen hook everything back up.=0A=0ASo I=E2=80=99m ready to fly once again.= =0A=0AMEANWHILE, I have an Oil Sump pan from Continental, part number 63287= 6 with only a hundred hours on it, in perfect working condition, except for= the stripped threads in the oil plug hole.=0A=0AThe mechanic who helped me= out yesterday told me that the right guy with the right aluminum welding s= kills could actually weld in a new aluminum disk that could be threaded and= the pan would be good as new.=0A=0ASince I do not possess aluminum welding= skills, my options are:=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0* Offer the oil= sump pan for sale to the highest bidder, or=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0* Make a wall clock out of it.=0A=0AI haven=E2=80=99t gotten the bill fo= r it yet, but the mechanic told me the new sump pan would cost about $2,300= .00. =C2=A0That is for a new one with threads that are not yet stripped. = =C2=A0I don=E2=80=99t know what mine, with the stripped threads, would be w= orth.=0A=0ASo if anyone has a need for an Oil Sump Pan with stripped thread= s, let me know. =C2=A0Or if you have any particularly clever and creative i= deas on how to make a clock out of it, I would be interested in hearing fro= m you as well.=0A=0ACheers,=0A=0AJohn Hafen=0AN413AJ =E2=80=94 110 hours=0A= =0APS =E2=80=94 the kindly mechanic said, =E2=80=9CJohn =E2=80=94 just use = a 1/4th inch drive on everything you do and you=E2=80=99ll be fine. =E2=80= =9C =C2=A0Then he handed me the Cont inental specs that list torque setting= s for everything under the sun, just in case I decide to go that route.=0A= =0Ajh =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AThe Average US Credit Sco= re is 692. 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i need one too where do you get one
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=0A=0AFrom: "vtailj= eff@aol.com" <vtailjeff@aol.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 9:45:06 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: I wish I had used a to= rque wrench

John,

Sounds like you need a low profile o= il quick drain from Mark Sherman.

Jeff


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From: John Hafen <j.hafen@comcast.net>
To: lml@lancai= ronline.net
Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 6:41 am
Subject: [LML] I wish I had= used a torque wrench

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So there I am on my crawler, finishing up an oil c= hange on N413AJ that has a total of 110 hours on her.  I=E2=80=99m put= ting the plug in the oil pan and its nice and tight.  I think (here is= where I started to get into trouble) =E2=80=9CI want this nice and tight s= o it doesn=E2=80=99t break the safety wire and fall out in flight, jettison= ing all the oil which freezes the engine and I have to crash land somewhere= ....=E2=80=9D

So one more little twist on the plug, and OOOOOOOps! &= nbsp;It went just a little bit too far.

I don=E2=80=99t need to tell= you the level of disappointment that flooded over me as I contemplated tha= t I had just stripped the threads in the oil sump pan.

So I atoned f= or my sin.

I bought a new sump, hired some help, disconnected lots o= f stuff, jacked the engine up just high enough to remove the old pan and slip it out the front and scrape off the old gasket and instal= l a new pan with gasket.  Then lower the engine back into place, call = Lancair to see how to torque the engine mounting bolts (4 50 =E2=80=93 500 = inch pounds), then hook everything back up.

So I=E2=80=99m ready to = fly once again.

MEANWHILE, I have an Oil Sump pan from Continental, = part number 632876 with only a hundred hours on it, in perfect working cond= ition, except for the stripped threads in the oil plug hole.

The mec= hanic who helped me out yesterday told me that the right guy with the right= aluminum welding skills could actually weld in a new aluminum disk that co= uld be threaded and the pan would be good as new.

Since I do not pos= sess aluminum welding skills, my options are:

   &nbs= p; * Offer the oil sump pan for sale to the highest bidder, or
&nbs= p;    * Make a wall clock out of it.

I haven=E2= =80=99t gotten the bill for it yet, but the mechanic told me the new sump pan woul= d cost about $2,300.00.  That is for a new one with threads that are n= ot yet stripped.  I don=E2=80=99t know what mine, with the stripped th= reads, would be worth.

So if anyone has a need for an Oil Sump Pan w= ith stripped threads, let me know.  Or if you have any particularly cl= ever and creative ideas on how to make a clock out of it, I would be intere= sted in hearing from you as well.

Cheers,

John Hafen
N413A= J =E2=80=94 110 hours

PS =E2=80=94 the kindly mechanic said, =E2=80= =9CJohn =E2=80=94 just use a 1/4th inch drive on everything you do and you= =E2=80=99ll be fine. =E2=80=9C  Then he handed me the Cont inental spe= cs that list torque settings for everything under the sun, just in case I d= ecide to go that route.

jh
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