X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:13:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from n1.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com ([206.190.56.20] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with SMTP id 3554695 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:34:21 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.190.56.20; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [68.142.230.28] by n1.bullet.re4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2009 12:33:46 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.155] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2009 12:33:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp208.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2009 12:33:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 85406.37913.bm@omp208.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79628 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2009 12:33:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wd/fGFzVRkl47+aHWDYOglaEn21DhjKNNc8atw6d3BgrqaMAR40AMvobQeKWYeREtugZRituJdsuFdg6Sl+GmHKqGlGZTI1+DVVAN4cs1lSE/uEe9X6Zet8DxPLqNagF7luK/3R5OhJPLG0raX9jXVERJHBhJRtbbmJB5JJ1fB8=; X-Original-Message-ID: <863480.78811.qm@web57503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ukQze1MVM1lYKjxPLFWOYicFFTN_n.gEvyeI67KSPgze26Kfk5Ob7ca3fact_FDww9vFX3JCmJ5oLj0HMU86WQBxD9VI4Wr89.3NrZubGh0i3B5XstGvKp.C5Ngn7S2.b71zBX1HdH0.jSwtk.2uO9pm6CM- Received: from [97.122.186.190] by web57503.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:33:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: X-Original-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:33:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Fuel selector Valve question X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-122094960-1237638825=:78811" --0-122094960-1237638825=:78811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan,=0AI'm afraid the setup you mention would be troublesome. I don't kn= ow if a 1/4 line is adequate or not, so I'll pass on that. Generally it is= undesirable to connect both tanks together in a low-wing plane, and this m= ight be especially true of one with low dihedral. The problem is that even= a small difference in fuel level could result, as the fuel level gets low,= in one tank unporting, allowing air to enter the system. As soon as air g= ets in the other tank will likely stop feeding entirely, shutting off the f= uel supply. You could probably feed off both down to some level, but that = level might be 1/2, and then there would be no reliable way to get the rest= of the fuel out. How do high-planes get by with it? They run each line s= eparately down to a common sump at the bottom of the plane. The difference= in pressure would have to be larger than the head of fuel from top to bott= om, about 4 feet or more. In a low wing plane there is no vertical height available. If you had a "three-way" valve that could select R-L-H-off it = could work, I suppose.=0AGary Casey=0A=0A=0A=0A____________________________= ____=0A=0A=0AI want to run this idea I have past the group.=0A=0AMy current= set-up is 1/4" lines coming from my wing tanks to the my header. Then a 3= /8" line feeds my engine. In this configuration I can only feed the engine= from Header only. This is the stock Lancair 320 fuel system.=0A=0AI would = like to be able to run my engine off my wing tanks if needed but I don't wa= nt to re-plumb the wings with 3/8" lines. Can I connect the 1/4" wing tank= lines into a "T" with a 3/8" exit and run the line to the selector valve? = Essentially the wings would not be able to be selected but they would feed= at the same time equally. =0AWould this idea work? And if so what type of= Andair valve would I need? One with just a Left/Right/OFF And I would ha= ve them custom engrave the bezel to read Wings/Header/OFF=0A=0AThanks=0ABry= an=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-122094960-1237638825=:78811 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bryan,
I'm afraid the setup you mention = would be troublesome. =A0I don't know if a 1/4 line is adequate or not, so = I'll pass on that. =A0Generally it is undesirable to connect both tanks tog= ether in a low-wing plane, and this might be especially true of one with lo= w dihedral. =A0The problem is that even a small difference in fuel level co= uld result, as the fuel level gets low, in one tank unporting, allowing air= to enter the system. =A0As soon as air gets in the other tank will likely = stop feeding entirely, shutting off the fuel supply.=A0=A0You could probabl= y feed off both down to some level, but that level might be 1/2, and then t= here would be no reliable way to get the rest of the fuel out.=A0=A0How do = high-planes get by with it? =A0They run each line separately down to a comm= on sump at the bottom of the plane. =A0The difference in pressure would have = to be larger than the head of fuel from top to bottom, about 4 feet or more= .. =A0In a low wing plane there is no vertical height available. =A0If you h= ad a "three-way" valve that could select R-L-H-off it could work, I suppose= ..
Gary Casey




I want to run this idea I have past the g= roup.

My current set-up is 1/4" lines coming from my win= g tanks to the my header. =A0Then a 3/8" line feeds my engine. =A0In this c= onfiguration I can only feed the engine from Header only. This is the stock= Lancair 320 fuel system.
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I would like to be ab= le to run my engine off my wing tanks if needed but I don't want to re-plum= b the wings with 3/8" lines. =A0Can I connect the 1/4" wing tank lines into= a "T" with a 3/8" exit and run the line to the selector valve? =A0Essentia= lly the wings would not be able to be selected but they would feed at the s= ame time equally.=A0
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Would this idea work? =A0And if so what t= ype of Andair valve would I need? =A0One with just a Left/Right/OFF =A0And = I would have them custom engrave the bezel to read Wings/Header/OFF

Thanks
=0ABryan
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