X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:30:48 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTP id 3544649 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:12:24 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.122; envelope-from=schaefer@rts-services.com Received: from Master.RTS-Services.com ([24.174.112.232]) by hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090312011148.PIQ23821.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@Master.RTS-Services.com> for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:11:48 +0000 Received: from RTSLaptop (cpe-24-174-112-232.austin.res.rr.com [24.174.112.232] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by Master.RTS-Services.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2C1BduR024363 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:11:40 -0500 From: "Richard T. Schaefer" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: oil cooling X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:11:33 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acmh8jnCWTHqgFaGR8eF3DvfhxCS0AAvK+cg X-Spam-Score: -2.135 () AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC,WEIRD_PORT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 192.168.10.101 We use a zig zag tape about 1" before some small naca scoops on my = glider. Check most modern glider distributors. It comes in different = thicknesses. -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Ron Laughlin Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:37 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: oil cooling Hi Randy, I read an article once about a Velocity builder (canard pusher) who used NACA ducts behind the cabin to cool his whole engine. As you can imagine, he had some trouble getting adequate air flow through the cowl. He tried many different modifications (short of bonding on some big scoops) but nothing worked. He finally determined that the boundary layer air was just skipping over the NACA ducts and very little was being drawn into the cowl. His solution ended up being very simple. He bonded a small triangular ridge (think similar to a stall strip) on the cowl surface just ahead of the NACA inlet to "trip" the boundary layer so that it would tumble into the duct opening. IIRC, the final shape that worked best for him was a "V" shaped (like a chevron) 3/8" ridge placed about an inch forward of the ducts pointing toward the nose. This might not work in your case but it would be easy to test. Just tape on some balsa strips and go fly. I wish I had a picture for you but I can't remember where I read it. BTW, I'm still very impressed with the unbelievable quality of your = work. RonL On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:41 PM, wrote: > Posted for randy snarr : > > =A0All, > =A0Thanks for the good suggestions on the oil cooler. > =A0I flew again today and my oil temps are at 208 F flying in 35 f = air. > =A0They will be 215 or 220 this summer. > =A0I will try a few solutions that do not need to cut the cowl. I will = most > likely make a duct to carry the exhaust air from the oil cooler down = to the > lower aft part of the cowl. I have also heard that the aft vertical = edge of > the naca opening should be shaped like an air foil. Mine is flat and fairly > sharp. The easiest way to test will to be construct a piece to give it = a > little airfoil made from balsa or foam taped in place and flight = tested. If > that does not work, I will make a duct from the cooler to the low = pressure > area on the bottom of the cowl and lastly would be a small lip on the bottom > of the cowl aft. > =A0every producton airplane I have seen with an opening on the bottom = of the > cowl has 45 deg lip to create a low pressure area. I should have done = that > before I painted.... > > > =A0I will post my findings when I get them. > > =A0Randy Snarr > =A0N694RS > > > -- > > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html