X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:38:27 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3529543 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:25:43 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.64; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PSXc1b0050FhH24A7dR8Up; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:25:08 +0000 Received: from [10.128.90.198] ([75.151.125.133]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PdR71b0042soXEK8UdR7Bm; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:25:08 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 X-Original-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:25:05 -0800 Subject: On Swift Fuel From: John Hafen X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: On Swift Fuel Thread-Index: Acmd+mDo7GVMDrh3ykqiKl8k51mZzQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3319118707_1409778" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3319118707_1409778 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Gents: Swift Fuel is currently seeking investors to =B3fund future research.=B2 I don=B9t know what your collective risk tolerance is, but you may do better by putting your money in a downward spiraling stock market. At least that way your money will crash and burn quickly, rather than languishing in the sea of hope for years to come, before sinking. When green people tell me they are going to make high octane fuel =B3from cellulosic biomass=8Bswitch grass and agricultural waste=B2 and used disposable diapers, AND the resulting fuel will be CHEAPER than a petroleum based product, I grab my wallet and hang on tight. Remember the corn and ethanol thing? All that did was destroy a lot of pheasant habitat. I would LOVE to believe the hype, but I won=B9t be sending them any money. Nor will I hold my breath waiting for them to deliver as promised. John Hafen On 3/5/09 3:54 PM, "Chuck Jensen" wrote: > John, > =20 > Not to worry....tell the wife she's welcome to come along. While the SF = is > about a pound heavier per gallon, it also has 13% more stored heat energy= , so > you don't need to carry as much fuel to go the same distance. Funny how = that > works; heavier fuels hold more BTUs....must just be a coincidence. > =20 > Chuck Jensen=20 > =20 >> =20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of J= ohn >> Hafen >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:12 PM >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >> Subject: [LML] Re: Swift Fuel reeks havoc on kitchen clearance >>=20 >> If the Swift Fuel is, as they say: >>=20 >> =B3about a pound heavier per gallon,=B2 >>=20 >> that makes it pretty much a non-starter in my IVP. =B3Sorry Honey, you h= ave >> to stay home on this trip. I just loaded up on =B3Swift Fuel.=B2 >>=20 >> If a guy leaves his wife home, because he=B9s now a hundred pounds heavie= r, >> and he had to choose between taking his wife along or his golf clubs, t= hen >> the resulting scenario hurls a javelin through the heart of the primary= core >> of aerodynamics of flight =8B you know =8B what makes an airplane fly, whi= ch is >> =B3kitchen clearance.=B2 (we all know it has nothing to do with lift and d= rag >> and all that stuff) >>=20 >>=20 >> On 3/4/09 10:34 AM, "Kevin Stallard" wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>> Looks like the FAA testing labs are coming out with some positive feed= back >>> on Swift Fuel (100LL replacement). Looking good! >>> =20 >>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/bizav/1325-full.html#199892 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 --B_3319118707_1409778 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On Swift Fuel Gents:

Swift Fuel is currently seeking investors to “fund future research.&#= 8221;  I don’t know what your collective risk tolerance is, but y= ou may do better by putting your money in a downward spiraling stock market.=  At least that way your money will crash and burn quickly, rather than= languishing in the sea of hope for years to come, before sinking.

When green people tell me they are going to make high octane fuel “from cellulosic biomass—switch grass and agr= icultural waste” and used disposable diapers,  AND the resulting = fuel will be CHEAPER than a petroleum based product, I grab my wallet and ha= ng on tight.  Remember the corn and ethanol thing?  All that did w= as destroy a lot of pheasant habitat.

I would LOVE to believe the hype, but I won’t be sending them any mon= ey.  Nor will I hold my breath waiting for them to deliver as promised.=

John Hafen


On 3/5/09 3:54 PM, "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> wrote:

John,
Not to worry....tell the wi= fe she's welcome to come along.  While the SF is about a pound heavier = per gallon, it also has 13% more stored heat energy, so you don't need to ca= rry as much fuel to go the same distance.  Funny how that works; heavie= r fuels hold more BTUs....must just be a coincidence.
Chuck Jensen


-----Original Message= -----
From: Lancair Mailing List  [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of John Hafen
Sent:  Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:12 PM
To:  lml@lancaironline.net<= BR> Subject: [LML] Re: Swift Fuel reeks havoc on  kitchen clearance=

If the  Swift F= uel is, as they say:

“about a  pound heavier per gallon,&= #8221;

that makes it pretty much a non-starter in my IVP.   “Sorry= Honey, you have to stay home on this trip.  I just loaded up  on = “Swift Fuel.”

If a guy leaves his wife home, because he’s now a  hundred pound= s heavier, and he had to choose between taking his wife along or  his g= olf clubs, then the resulting scenario hurls a javelin through the heart &nb= sp;of the primary core of  aerodynamics of flight — you know R= 12; what makes an  airplane fly, which is “kitchen clearance.R= 21;  (we all know it has nothing  to do with lift and drag and all= that stuff)


On 3/4/09 10:34 AM,  "Kevin Stallard" <Kevin@arilabs.net>  wrote:

 
Looks like the FAA testing labs are coming out with  some= positive feedback on Swift Fuel (100LL replacement).  Looking  go= od!
 
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/bizav/1325-full.html#199892
 
 



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