X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:28:14 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <5zq@cox.net> Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.240.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3518307 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:23:10 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.240.48; envelope-from=5zq@cox.net Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090226212233.SYIB18213.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:22:33 -0500 Received: from newness ([72.219.212.112]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id LlNZ1b00R2S3sm002lNZpM; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:22:33 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=goGcD1e43yNsGmNM-OUA:9 a=T8MR1haBmHU7NmByCE_F1iZgdeYA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=11T6dewhpPDbYPWMsjYA:9 a=7WKeDmHJ1_lVagIG9VwA:7 a=K7uNxk8aTJDC3aRBwGM1lvzqq88A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-Original-Message-ID: From: "Bill" <5zq@cox.net> X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] P-MAGS X-Original-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:22:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007E_01C9982E.72DE0400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C9982E.72DE0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Gene, We've got 2 P-Mags on our 320. We've had mostly positive experience = with them. One negative has been a sensing magnet that can come loose = and seriously throw off the timing. The folks at Emag have re-engineered = the sensing system. This is no longer a problem. All new mags have the = new magnet and mount and a service bulletin has been issued on the mags = out in the field. The service bulletin requires the mag be returned to = the factory where they will install the fix. They ask a flat rate = shipping charge of 25 bucks, but the repair is free and the turnaround = is within 2 days.=20 If you need a mag gear, I recommend buying a Lycoming gear. I found, and = I believe that others on the list have found (Scott, was that you?), = excessive wear on the mag gear that they sell.=20 Those are the only negatives that I'm aware of. Use a Lycoming gear and = make sure that the service bulletin has been done and there are no = negatives left. I've had mine on for about 450 hours and am very happy = with them.=20 I've found Brad at E-mag to be extremely responsive to questions, = comments, requests and suggestions. They are very honest about the = problems that they have encountered in developing this product and the = solutions that they have implemented. I believe that these ignitions = have been out for long enough to be a mature product with the problems = already worked out.=20 At this point, I believe that the P model (self powered) is probably = more dependable than a conventional mag. It generates it's own = electricity but will use ships power if the internal generating = capability fails (it does need ships power for starting). Your engine = will start much easier and with no possibility of kickback since during = start it fires just past TDC. Cruise efficiency is improved over = conventional mags and the cost is comparable.=20 I like ours and am planning on dual P-mags on our IV (the 6 cylinder = version will probably be out this summer). I recommend the product and = the company. Contact me if you need any more info. Bill Harrelson N5ZQ 320 1,650 hrs N6ZQ IV under construction Thinking about buying P-Mags so I can use a cooling plenum,the = aircraft spark plugs are to long and need to use shorter auto plugs. = Have herd of things in the past like random misfire and gear problems. = Need the good bad and ugly. Gene Martin LNC2/320 ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C9982E.72DE0400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Gene,
 
We've got 2 P-Mags on our 320.  = We've had=20 mostly positive experience with them. One negative has been a = sensing=20 magnet that can come loose and seriously throw off the timing. The folks = at Emag=20 have re-engineered the sensing system. This is no longer a problem. All = new mags=20 have the new magnet and mount and a service bulletin has been issued on = the mags=20 out in the field. The service bulletin requires the mag be returned to = the=20 factory where they will install the fix. They ask a flat rate shipping = charge of=20 25 bucks, but the repair is free and the turnaround is within 2 days.=20
 
If you need a mag gear, I = recommend buying a=20 Lycoming gear. I found, and I believe that others on the list have found = (Scott,=20 was that you?), excessive wear on the mag gear that they sell. =
 
Those are the only negatives that I'm = aware of. Use=20 a Lycoming gear and make sure that the service bulletin has been done = and there=20 are no negatives left.  I've had mine on for about 450 hours and am = very=20 happy with them.
 
I've found Brad at E-mag to be = extremely responsive=20 to questions, comments, requests and suggestions. They are very honest = about the=20 problems that they have encountered in developing this product and the = solutions=20 that they have implemented. I believe that these ignitions have been out = for=20 long enough to be a mature product with the problems already worked = out.=20
 
At this point, I believe that the P = model (self=20 powered) is probably more dependable than a conventional mag. It = generates it's=20 own electricity but will use ships power if the internal generating = capability=20 fails (it does need ships power for starting).  Your engine will = start much=20 easier and with no possibility of kickback since during start it fires = just past=20 TDC. Cruise efficiency is improved over conventional mags and the cost = is=20 comparable.
 
I like ours and am planning on dual = P-mags on our=20 IV (the 6 cylinder version will probably be out this summer). I = recommend the=20 product and the company. Contact me if you need any more = info.
 
Bill Harrelson
N5ZQ 320 1,650 hrs
N6ZQ  IV under = construction
 
 
 
 
 

Thinking about buying P-Mags so I can = use a=20 cooling plenum,the aircraft spark plugs are to long and need to use = shorter=20 auto plugs. Have herd of things in the past like random misfire and = gear=20 problems. Need the good bad and ugly.
Gene Martin
LNC2/320

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