X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:11:45 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.46.29] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3512849 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:14:56 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.46.29; envelope-from=mdpilot982@gmail.com Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1036397ywb.7 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:14:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=Uf4fM96THY+tlfRn10feNxTywHTtxZhYQQP55hT9nopWGVrXkADl3ARulXVL49BbJb BXhQQVzm+dJyOQ02ta/2lvw5A8bDpK9z+IS40u9tlf39s8Dkrv3WmQzGOxs2e5MRs67Z B8LXf1CUQw9R5xlUQU9IkJd+X7+5sMxdwu1pg= Received: by 10.231.17.11 with SMTP id q11mr7156021iba.8.1235445260161; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:14:20 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from DRSMITH (c-75-72-249-193.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.72.249.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm10861106qba.17.2009.02.23.19.14.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:14:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael D. Smith" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Deice for the IV X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:14:23 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <003901c9962d$fed50d80$fc7f2880$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C995FB.B43A9D80" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmWKtQ3MDl6lz+4ROKNulfjUUsmjQAAxMsw Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C995FB.B43A9D80 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003B_01C995FB.B43D0E80" ------=_NextPart_001_003B_01C995FB.B43D0E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yikees. What is it going to take? That level of service is my greatest fear. Michael From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of zoelt@sio.midco.net Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:51 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Deice for the IV Michael, I have a lifetime of experience with the Thermawing and RDD enterprises in the last year. In short They charged me several thousand dollars over the agreed price because my IVP was a nonstandard Configuration(battery on the right firewall, standby alternator, etc) They created several thousand dollars worth of squaks my local shop had to fix when I got the plane back and refuse to accept responsibility claiming they didn't pull avionics connections loose when they pulled wires through my firewall and didn'tleave wires disconnected to pitot heat and aileron servos, etc, etc. They refuse to negotiate these expenses saying I should have returned the aircraft them or the costs for local repair were too high (lower shop rate than they charge). Kelly Aerospace customer support refuses to help simply forewarding my complaints to RDD. My recourse is to Sue them from a thousand miles away or simply tell my story when people ask. I Have many friends who have RVs who say they're selling the Thermawing for the RV 10. I'll tell my story there as well. I thought there was an east-coast installer as well but people at the HPAT training seminar say no. OH, by the way the system still doesn't work and advertised. Tim, LNCIVP, 524JG _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Michael D. Smith Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:01 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Deice for the IV Does anyone have experience adding on deice for the IV, either the expulsive or thermal system? Could you please contact me? Thanks in advance. Michael Smith ------=_NextPart_001_003B_01C995FB.B43D0E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yikees.  What is it going to take?  That level = of service is my greatest fear.

 

Michael

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = zoelt@sio.midco.net
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:51 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Deice for the IV

 

Michael,

I have = a lifetime of experience with the Thermawing and RDD enterprises in the last = year.

In = short They charged me several thousand dollars over the agreed price because my IVP = was a nonstandard

Configuration(battery on the right firewall, standby alternator, etc)

They = created several thousand dollars worth of squaks my local shop had to fix when I = got the plane back and refuse to accept responsibility claiming they = didn’t pull avionics connections loose when they pulled wires through my firewall = and didn’tleave wires disconnected to pitot heat and aileron servos, = etc, etc.

 

They = refuse to negotiate these expenses saying I should have returned the aircraft them = or the costs for local repair were too high (lower shop rate than they = charge).

 

Kelly = Aerospace customer support refuses to help simply forewarding my complaints to = RDD.

 

My = recourse is to Sue them from a thousand miles away or simply tell my story when people = ask.

 

I Have = many friends who have RVs who say they’re selling the Thermawing for = the RV 10.  I’ll tell my story there as well.

 

I = thought there was an east-coast installer as well but people at the HPAT training = seminar say no.

 

OH, by = the way the system still doesn’t work and advertised.

Tim,

LNCIVP, = 524JG

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Michael D. Smith
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:01 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Deice for the IV

 

Does anyone have experience adding on deice for the IV, = either the expulsive or thermal system?

 

Could you please contact me?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Michael Smith

 

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