Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #50392
From: Douglas Brunner <douglasbrunner@earthlink.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: cylinder wear-to lean or not too lean
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:32:07 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Re: [LML] Re: cylinder wear-to lean or not too lean
Here is what I was taught by Braly et al
  • Max power is at approximately 80 to 100 degrees rich of peak
  • Max CHT and Intra Cylinder Pressure is approximately 50 degrees rich of peak
  • In a situation in which you are at or above 70% power (takeoff and climb), you want to be well more than 100 ROP or conversely very lean.  However since the power curve is broader on the rich side, it is easier to manage the engine rich.
  • You have no reason to be at 50 ROP (max CHT) - it is neither peak power nor peak efficiency.  It is also the most stressful/damaging place to operate the engine.
  • Flying lean of peak costs you about 3 knots and saves you about 3 gallons/hr - a very good deal in my opinion.
D. Brunner
 
(I have drunk the GAMI Koolaid)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hafen
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:50 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: cylinder wear-to lean or not too lean

Here’s the quote:

So as the mixture is leaned, power peaks first, with CHT peaking at very close to the same point. In practical terms, if we lean to max CHT, we'll have max power for that MP/RPM setting. Doesn't that make sense, intuitively? Max power, max CHT? It's not precisely true, but it's close enough.”

John


On 2/8/09 11:23 AM, "Colyn Case at earthlink" <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:

John,
    Did they really print that about CHT?
    I don't remember that max CHT equates to anything useful although it may correlate very well to max internal cylinder pressure (ICP), which is a bad thing.  ...but it's also affected by cylinder cooling, while EGT is (mostly) not. Max EGT would be stoichiometric which is most efficient if your engine can take it.   Usually slightly rich of that (e.g. 50 dF ROP) is better power but also involves more pressure before top dead center and is close to max ICP.
    There's a really scary picture you get early in the APS course which shows how the internal cylinder pressure varies in relation to crank position when you are running at "best power".  A measurable amount of the combustion expansion is actually pushing backwards on the crank until it comes over the top.   Great for torsional stress.

Colyn


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