X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:50:05 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [69.145.248.57] (HELO blnmtfh2svavs.cluster1.bresnan.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3483414 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:34:43 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.145.248.57; envelope-from=carbonflier@bresnan.net X-Original-Return-Path: Authentication-Results: blnmtfh2svavs smtp.user=carbonflier; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1H9roBwnREcA:10 a=_ZlWVnlqJKUA:10 a=S0lqrJIIAAAA:8 a=C6SppyQkAAAA:8 a=x0rbrxSZ76ebys3OlL0A:9 a=61uHwuni5Go8GB2LB6mllOFcepEA:4 a=tArLnsn5TpgA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [98.127.10.13] ([98.127.10.13:3082] helo=[192.168.0.186]) by blnmtfh2svavs.cluster1.bresnan.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.37 r(28805/28810M)) with ESMTPA id 75/3D-12101-034AF894; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:34:08 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <498FA430.9060009@bresnan.net> X-Original-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:34:08 -0700 From: David Standish User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Legacy Canopy Down & Latched Indication References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Valin & Allyson Thorn wrote: > > Hey Legacy pilots and builders, > > There have now been two Legacy crashes, including the loss of a fellow > pilot, apparently from canopy openings on takeoff. I’m sure we’d all > recognized even before these losses that the standard Legacy canopy > latching system can easily mislead a pilot that it is closed but not > be latched down. And, with these great visibility bubble canopies, but > hot green house effects, the canopies are usually propped open on the > ground and not closed and latched until just before takeoff. This > makes it fairly likely that every Legacy pilot at some time, with > fatigue or distractions, may not latch the canopy down before takeoff… > > Given this probability of occurrence, we’ve been planning to use > simple micro or proximity switches on both the canopy and the latch > mechanism to control an indicator/light on our instrument panel as a > secondary and hard to miss canopy configuration indicator. It would be > red whenever the canopy is not down OR not latched. I haven’t yet > decided if it would be good to have it green when the canopy is down > and latched. > > Anyway, I just wanted to share this with other pilots and builders > that are thinking about how to mitigate this in flight canopy opening > risk after the second accident from this (apparent) root cause. This > kind of set up should be a very easy retrofit for flying Legacy > airplanes, too. > > Valin Thorn > > Legacy > > Houston, TX USA > > http://www.starflight.aero/legacy/ > > P.S. Also, if you do the mod we worked up a few years ago that props > the canopy open when you unlatch the canopy (so you can get your > fingers under it to open it) you get another more clear indication > that the canopy is not latched… Don Barnes has this info on his website: > > http://www.lancairlegacy.com/tips_canopy_fixes.html > On the door of my IV a contactor closes when the door is in the closed position a micro switch detects the door latch position so that the circuit is complete when the door is properly closed and latched. This circuit powers a micro relay that opens when the door circuit is complete and closes when the door is open or unlatched. The relay in turn powers a red annunciator light near the middle of my scan on the panel near the gear lights. This would probably work great on the Legacy canopy. David