X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:43:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.9.26] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with SMTP id 3477369 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:04:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 36050 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2009 04:04:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Wixbnq4fXJFWufzP9f+gvONeKKXWRET12uHs+25pXl+jdzAyHDEJirS4VUFQODFe0xJJOqgzudmiRnaR6JOYgw8vNJjVONgHr9Jvwgb/eotfK7DMeurbNw+1IFimuGHHoG5pqg7hw4BG+PP2WU3xJS3U4vtr+cPDJ9S/jBJ54PE=; X-Original-Message-ID: <584667.35909.qm@web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .dAeMb0VM1llPuHSJFi3KeiZM17FZ_zEpCRYDkjKPunY20OjfSAMAuhtjdb69.Uc6sws9dVRTBvH2rCps8AwCDWb9ewGgT0XHBh7bAnThoibDmRPy9O1jSybHX443G1GeVrCmDZj4YPQoyieI4_JCHG0.Jog50PwbKuUM5PB6H6nTVuQdmJif0BY3H18LvGJ3hk.oJ.j4.os.7d8eqBr3EdVROQZ6fy5W.fmZDY- Received: from [74.34.211.8] by web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:04:45 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 X-Original-Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:04:45 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Reeves Reply-To: mattreeves@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LML] Lanair selling Legacy FG to the Columbian Military for Trainers X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2132182425-1233806685=:35909" --0-2132182425-1233806685=:35909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Boy, this is good news!!=A0=A0 Rare to hear such good news these days so I = am extra appreciative.=A0 I have been considering building a Legacy since I= completed the 320 MKII but have long wondered how long that option would b= e available in this economy.=A0=A0=20 My only question now is will this new "modified" Lancair Legacy be availabl= e to us?=A0=A0 Maybe, since the R&D will be paid for by the Columbian milit= ary, the new Legacy 2010 will be available to previous builders at reduced = costs?=A0 It sounds like the modified Legacy 2010 will be more stable than = the current Legacy from what the article states.=A0=A0 I was not aware that= the current Legacy was unstable. Matt --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Bay Elliott wrote: From: Bay Elliott Subject: [LML] Lanair selling Legacy FG to the Columbian Military for Train= ers To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 5:04 PM > With new deal, Lancair is flying high > Colombian Air Force will get 25 planes in company's largest deal ever > By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin > Published: February 04. 2009 4:00AM PST >=20 > A variant of the Lancair Legacy FG model seen here will be licensed for > production by a Colombian company for use in training pilots of the > Colombian Air Force. > Photo courtesy Lancair > Redmond kit plane manufacturer Lancair International Inc. announced a $6.= 5 > million licensing deal Tuesday that will allow a Colombian company to build > 25 Lancair aircraft for the Colombian Air Force for pilot training. > The deal with the Colombian Aviation Industry Corp. marks Lancair's largest > deal ever, according to Lancair General Manager Tim Ong. >=20 > "What's novel about the deal is most military training occurs in > certificated planes, but by purchasing kit planes and completing them in > Colombia, their Air Force will get a relatively high performance training > aircraft at a very reasonable cost," said Max Trescott, a Mountain View, > Calif.-based aviation industry consultant. "It looks like a very good deal > for everyone involved." >=20 > Kit planes, or planes built from kits, can be certified airworthy by the > Federal Aviation Administration if they are at least 51 percent built by the > plane's owner. Customers are responsible for getting the planes certified by > the FAA. This differs from manufacturers, whose planes are certified by the > FAA before they're sold. >=20 > Due to the growing demands for new technology, such as carbon composite > materials, the FAA has proposed more stringent manufacturing regulations for > kit planes. >=20 > The Lancair planes built in Colombia will not be subject to FAA regulation. >=20 > The deal helps Lancair's bottom line, Ong said, but he added that the > company has not been buffeted by the recession as much as other airplane > manufacturers. Ong said new orders are down, but a backlog of orders as well > as the newly announced deal means the company is likely to weather 2009 "in > good shape." >=20 > To prove the point, Ong said Lancair is hiring. Many airplane manufacturers, > including industry giants Cessna Aircraft Co. and Hawker Beechcraft Corp.= , > both based in Wichita, Kan., have recently laid off thousands of employees. >=20 > The Colombian deal calls for Lancair to fabricate the planes' carbon > composite components either at its plant in Redmond or its fabrication > facility in the Philippines. All of the planes' components will then be > shipped to Colombia for final assembly. >=20 > Ong said the Colombian Air Force currently uses older, aluminum-frame Cessna > trainers that have suffered corrosion damage on account of the humidity > where the trainers are based. A switch to planes made from carbon composite > materials eliminates the threat of corrosion, Ong said. >=20 > Plans call for the completion of one aircraft per month in Colombia, > beginning Aug. 15, and increasing to two per month by the end of the year= , > according to the company. >=20 > The model licensed to Colombia is a variant of the company's Legacy FG > model. The new aircraft, which exists on paper only, features a wing that's > 15 percent bigger than the Legacy FG wing, leading-edge cuffs and a ventral > fin, all design attributes that provide stability in flight, Ong said. >=20 > "The whole point is they want to develop infrastructure, create jobs, > (provide) economic development and also bring in core engineering jobs; and, > second, they have to replace their fleet of trainers anyway so it was not > that much more expensive to do it this way," Ong said. >=20 > Lancair was founded in Southern California in 1984 by Lance Neibauer, a > graphic artist who helped pioneer the use of composite materials in aircraft > construction. The company moved to Redmond in 1991. It later spun off the > manufacturing of FAA-certified, factory-built planes into a separate > company - Columbia Aircraft Manufacturing Co. - which Cessna bought out o= f > bankruptcy in 2007. >=20 > According to the company, Lancair has delivered more than 2,000 kit > airplanes. It employs 54 people at its plant neighboring the Redmond Airport > and approximately 90 at its plant in the Philippines, Ong said. >=20 > Andrew Moore can be reached at 541-617-7820 or amoore@bendbulletin.com. > Warm Regards, > Bay Elliott > Executive Vice President, The Farwell Group, Inc. > Executive Recruiting Consultants > (305) 529 4811 bay@farwellgroup.com > "A passion for building high performance teams, one person at a time." > www.farwellgroup.com Corporate Site > www.linkedin.com/in/bayelliott for additional personal profile on Linked In -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html =0A=0A=0A --0-2132182425-1233806685=:35909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Boy, this is good news!!   Rare to = hear such good news these days so I am extra appreciative.  I have bee= n considering building a Legacy since I completed the 320 MKII but have lon= g wondered how long that option would be available in this economy. &n= bsp;

My only question now is will this new "modified" Lancair Legac= y be available to us?   Maybe, since the R&D will be paid for= by the Columbian military, the new Legacy 2010 will be available to previo= us builders at reduced costs?  It sounds like the modified Legacy 2010= will be more stable than the current Legacy from what the article states.&= nbsp;  I was not aware that the current Legacy was unstable.

Ma= tt



--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Bay Elliott <bay@farwellgrou= p.com> wrote:
From: Bay Elliott <bay@= farwellgroup.com>
Subject: [LML] Lanair selling Legacy FG to the Colu= mbian Military for Trainers
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Wednesday= , February 4, 2009, 5:04 PM

> With new deal, Lancair is flyi=
ng high
> Colombian Air Force will get 25 planes in company's largest=
 deal ever
> By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin
> Published: Februa=
ry 04. 2009 4:00AM PST
> 
> A variant of the Lancair Legacy FG =
model seen here will be licensed for
> production by a Colombian comp=
any for use in training pilots of the
> Colombian Air Force.
> =
Photo courtesy Lancair
> Redmond kit plane manufacturer Lancair Inter=
national Inc. announced a $6.5
> million licensing deal Tuesday that =
will allow a Colombian company to
build
> 25 Lancair aircraft for =
the Colombian Air Force for pilot training.
> The deal with
 the Colombian Aviation Industry Corp. marks Lancair's
largest
> d=
eal ever, according to Lancair General Manager Tim Ong.
> 
> "W=
hat's novel about the deal is most military training occurs in
> cert=
ificated planes, but by purchasing kit planes and completing them in
>=
; Colombia, their Air Force will get a relatively high performance training=

> aircraft at a very reasonable cost," said Max Trescott, a Mountain=

View,
> Calif.-based aviation industry consultant. "It looks like=
 a very good
deal
> for everyone involved."
> 
> Kit p=
lanes, or planes built from kits, can be certified airworthy by the
>=
 Federal Aviation Administration if they are at least 51 percent built bythe
> plane's owner. Customers are responsible for getting the plan=
es
certified by
> the FAA. This differs from manufacturers, whose =
planes are certified by
the
> FAA before they're
 sold.
> 
> Due to the growing demands for new technology, such=
 as carbon composite
> materials, the FAA has proposed more stringent=
 manufacturing regulations
for
> kit planes.
> 
> The =
Lancair planes built in Colombia will not be subject to FAA
regulation.<=
br>> 
> The deal helps Lancair's bottom line, Ong said, but he add=
ed that the
> company has not been buffeted by the recession as much =
as other airplane
> manufacturers. Ong said new orders are down, but =
a backlog of orders as
well
> as the newly announced deal means th=
e company is likely to weather 2009
"in
> good shape."
> > To prove the point, Ong said Lancair is hiring. Many airplane
manu=
facturers,
> including industry giants Cessna Aircraft Co. and Hawker=
 Beechcraft Corp.,
> both based in Wichita, Kan., have recently laid =
off thousands of
employees.
> 
> The Colombian deal
 calls for Lancair to fabricate the planes' carbon
> composite compon=
ents either at its plant in Redmond or its fabrication
> facility in =
the Philippines. All of the planes' components will then
be
> ship=
ped to Colombia for final assembly.
> 
> Ong said the Colombian=
 Air Force currently uses older, aluminum-frame
Cessna
> trainers =
that have suffered corrosion damage on account of the humidity
> wher=
e the trainers are based. A switch to planes made from carbon
composite<=
br>> materials eliminates the threat of corrosion, Ong said.
> > Plans call for the completion of one aircraft per month in Colombia,<=
br>> beginning Aug. 15, and increasing to two per month by the end of th=
e year,
> according to the company.
> 
> The model licens=
ed to Colombia is a variant of the company's Legacy FG
> model. The n=
ew aircraft, which exists on paper only, features a
 wing
that's
> 15 percent bigger than the Legacy FG wing, leading-=
edge cuffs and a
ventral
> fin, all design attributes that provide=
 stability in flight, Ong said.
> 
> "The whole point is they w=
ant to develop infrastructure, create jobs,
> (provide) economic deve=
lopment and also bring in core engineering jobs;
and,
> second, th=
ey have to replace their fleet of trainers anyway so it was not
> tha=
t much more expensive to do it this way," Ong said.
> 
> Lancai=
r was founded in Southern California in 1984 by Lance Neibauer, a
> g=
raphic artist who helped pioneer the use of composite materials in
aircr=
aft
> construction. The company moved to Redmond in 1991. It later sp=
un off the
> manufacturing of FAA-certified, factory-built planes int=
o a separate
> company - Columbia Aircraft Manufacturing Co. - which =
Cessna bought out of
> bankruptcy in 2007.
> 
>
 According to the company, Lancair has delivered more than 2,000 kit
>=
; airplanes. It employs 54 people at its plant neighboring the Redmond
A=
irport
> and approximately 90 at its plant in the Philippines, Ong sa=
id.
> 
> Andrew Moore can be reached at 541-617-7820 or amoore@=
bendbulletin.com.





> Warm Regards,
> Bay Ell=
iott
> Executive Vice President, The Farwell Group, Inc.
> Exec=
utive Recruiting Consultants
> (305) 529 4811      bay@farwellgroup.c=
om
> "A passion for building high performance teams, one person at a<=
br>time."
> www.farwellgroup.com  Corporate Site
> www.linkedin=
.com/in/bayelliott  for additional personal profile on Linked
In
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