X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:56:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web62507.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.75.99] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with SMTP id 3473075 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:00:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 44577 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2009 21:00:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=pmqxaKlCm9hYT0HuZeJ964glepY6HMY/RwkyQ5Q+kdzcVEUttcHpz7H2ys/6WH3B2x7bOk+rjozYF05bfb4HKvhUS9+RVjI+tQIXSNmIvIaY8GERqqC3dwbyxGdgpZ3qItQUhV6blV+TQPZ/C3ARbl9buBt0PdP45y0wwGQ6U0s=; X-YMail-OSG: otsgl_oVM1n_rVmgAV.4s.hbv38hWXaOzk9WKr0QBz4sn.o8oUudQDZET6.uKaFhl4TQvCPDcJXFaH.yLuEqoIUh5LXB2Q2ri_DIo3.OqfVfmwjfqyPVSwuKQk4eKM_cKEc8dWBD9B2naO33S.v5v2y42GNQ12yR5Vk.0d..oKjJgKXHSlgjQGuYnV7NgH7oCPIwuuhn6aWhM0sx89hpePljFyTAMlARQGfn Received: from [97.104.165.236] by web62507.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:00:37 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 X-Original-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:00:37 -0800 (PST) From: Charlie Kohler Subject: Scoop X-Original-To: LancairList MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-ID: <436470.44544.qm@web62507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Brent writes " You have the double whammy of cowling drag to cool the intercooler and tu= rbo plus the belly scoop. One IV I know of that added a belly scoop for an = air conditioner condenser lost better that 10 Kts. That whole "P-51 scope a= dded thrust" story is a myth, IMHO." This "one IV" must have had the early scoop that was much lower into the ai= r stream than the current models. Wind tunnel tests with models resulted i= n this modification to the scoop. I believe this was done in the year 2000= /2001. How to tell?? A measurement from the center of the fuselage to the a= pex of the upper lip of the air-conditioning scoop should be 1 1/8th" for t= he newer model. In my IV I compared data with the earlier prop tests that I did for MT and = found that it was approximately 3kt loss at an average from 1000 foot cruis= e up to 20,000 feet. I agree with Brent that the scoop probably does not /and never did, add any= boost-- however I do believe that it can clean up the exhaust and it's tur= bulence along the belly. Charlie K. See=A0me on the Web at=A0 www.Lancair-IV.com