X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:17:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web51509.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.201] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with SMTP id 3435378 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:20:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 8680 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2009 17:20:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=dgjkRk9kLDjXrtNlzsNI+pDgSKAKGRvnMVG3oeAxZ7pk95Q/36mqtQBPIq/otac2HIAhhwrATVOdpSZRatPSXyFbaHDX6FXAifQrFxLC7w6aWOqpmjFdxL3sMj4ahr9BrwQS+R0JjL0Sa8wcTT2NVkdciC0XhiOBgbFihCwLBxg=; X-YMail-OSG: _CWFbS8VM1k5DMmWDSXw8l3QJO5zKDGiCzHbzcTT2z55DWeTfgs0YFd0LeNV5LZ8o6aX5L9sR.SAKnLNrWldAqfQkdr7h1x35PAzjg4UoW3oCx.6s7mJOgLAU5O9ZtFZdV5gUsR6K1lreegkjM6IcBUJyPF0tH4yw6n8i9mWFA4OCfKPixVWfudGzCMX7d8Rqlybb3QSvKkcy_cFMhjLniwsLeUM Received: from [67.162.178.162] by web51509.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:20:35 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 X-Original-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:20:35 -0800 (PST) From: Tom McNerney Subject: Down Flap Relay Failure X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-ID: <730352.6707.qm@web51509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I thought I would share my recent flap relay failure.=A0 Looking back on wh= at happened I think it was an interesting experience, and how my training k= icked in.=0A=0ASo I turn downwind and slow to below gear speed.=A0 I drop t= he gear and look for flap speed.=A0 Before I turn to base I usually add a b= it of flaps.=A0 Maybe 2 seconds worth.=A0 After selecting flaps I found a h= uge change in pitch trim and a noticeable drop in airspeed.=A0 I looked out= at the flaps and found them to be fully extended.=A0 So much that I could = see straight down do the ground. (or at least it seemed like it)=A0 Instant= ly I added some power with little results.=A0 I selected flaps up with no r= esults.=A0 A quick look at the flap breaker sticking out explained that one= .=A0 At this point I decided to not mess with anything else in the cockpit = and just fly the plane.=A0 Probably that Skip Holm training kicking in.=A0 = It also felt like I just deployed a drag chute, as the airspeed was droppin= g quickly.=A0 I came back with a couple turns on the prop and what I think = was about half throttle.=A0 During the confusion I had cut the turn from ba= se to final and was a bit high for the approach.=A0 With plenty of runway left I was ok with tha= t.=A0=A0I did not want to go around, period. =A0I found a power setting tha= t let me hold my current airspeed and gave me some pitch feeling back.=A0 B= eing high on final I pointed the nose down and came back a bit on the power= .=A0 I have never been in a Lancair that was pointed down like this one and= it didn't speed up.=A0 Combine that with the 16 gusting to 22 headwind and= I had a very slow ground speed.=A0 It felt like I was flying a Vans RV on = final. haha=A0 Everything was feeling good so I even made a normal radio ca= ll. :)=A0 Touchdown was very smooth, I have no idea how.=A0 I do remember t= hat I was full aft on the stick, or pitch up.=A0 This is a small tail 360.= =A0 The one time I wish it was bigger.=A0 My normal landing does not consis= t of full flaps, let alone the mechanical limit of the flap motor, because = of the small tail.=A0 I can not trim to a neutral stick and I am not comfor= table with the lack of pitch up.=0A=0AThe down flap relay stuck closed causing t= he flap motor to run. When this happens it cuts the limit switch out of the= loop.=A0 Yeehaww=0A=0AI have ordered new relays from Lancair.=A0 Just curi= ous if anyone knows if the relays are the same as what came with the early = 90's kit?=A0 =0A=0ATom McNerney=0Awww.N54SG.com