Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #49419
From: <vtailjeff@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:10:41 -0500
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Michael,

The intent of my posts is not to frighten but to educate people with the facts. Fear has no place in the cockpit. Fear interferes with your ability to process information and makes for poor piloting. Instead the information should cause one to ponder the "why" did this event happen or that one happen. Who is at a higher risk and who is not. Most of all the information should tell us (as you suggest) to respect the machine we fly, stay within the operating envelope and to also respect our own abilities and limitations. We should not be whistling in the dark.

Jeff


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From: N66mg@aol.com
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 8:51 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

To All Concern,
I'm just finishing a Lancair IV kit from someone who lost his medical and all this concern about flying mishaps is very frightening. Private vs commercial vs IFR is showing great ideas for safety, but some of these accidents come from over confidence and not following the numbers that apply to the planes.
Flying into adverse weather, trying to fly slower that the aircraft was designed, showing off and just plain stupid and all the above measure up to accidents. Good plain judgement can help to prevent most of these and better training, but over confidence probably plays a big part of all these accidents.   
I have about 1000 hours in a Glasair and every time that I go up I think about how lucky I am to be able to fly and still pay attention to the numbers that make this plane safe. I don't push the envelope, the speeds are what they are and I follow them very close and always on the side of safety. High performance aircraft are what they are and you can't follow a Cessna 152  down wind, after all you are the pilot in command and tell the controller "NO" when you need to. In my 6 decades of life, I still am able to learn from others and we are all in the same boat or should I say a plane! That's my two cents.
Michael
n66mg
In a message dated 11/8/2008 7:11:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, vtailjeff@aol.com writes:
Kevin,

I am not saying anything. I am just doing the math. Once I have finished the math I will let everyone know... I did address the hour thing in the other graph. Put the two together and you have a picture. Private pilot + low time in type= higher risk of accident.

I agree that training reduces accidents.  As I said earlier in my ten recommendations to become a safer pilot is if you are going to spend the money training you might as well get a new rating. ;)

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Stallard <Kevin@arilabs.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 5:37 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

Jeff,
 
>While Private Pilot certificates comprise 35% of total U.S. pilot population.
>Private pilots account for almost 55% of the Lancair accident population and 48% of the GA accident population
 
I think you are trying to say is “If you only have a Private Pilot certificate, you are more likely to have an accident.”  And that you probably mean to imply
that if you hold some other advanced rating, that you have a less chance of having an accident.
 
The propblem is (at least for me) is that 100% of GA accidents are caused by, well,  pilots, and half of those accidents (or thereabouts) are caused by folks with higher ratings than a private pilot (according to your numbers).
 
I’m not convienced that a rating is the thing that is indicative of the likely hood of an having an accident, however, I think that the amount of practice and training are, and unfortunalty ratings don’t accuratly reflect this quantity.  However, a logbook usually does.   Maybe that’s were we need to look.
 
Kevin
 
 



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