X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTP id 3260080 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:56:58 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.158.62.67; envelope-from=cfi@instructor.net Received: from wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com.int (wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com.int [192.168.8.242]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 97C5618001BF for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:56:19 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (208.36.123.229) by wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com; 3 Nov 2008 12:55:57 -0000 Received: by ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 603E6CD80FB; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:56:18 +0000 (GMT) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1225716978294230" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Ron Galbraith" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:56:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy - AOPA article Received: from [204.108.8.5] by ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com with http for cfi@instructor.net; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:56:18 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 204.108.8.5 X-Originating-Server: ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Message-Id: <20081103125618.603E6CD80FB@ws1-4a.us4.outblaze.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_1225716978294230 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Matt, You must have some bitter history with flight training that you've not shared. Am I hearing you right that you don't think flight instructors should charge for their services? To quote you "The last place I think anyone should be profiting in is Lancair education and training and flight testing". Do you really think that LOBO will be giving you free instruction and flight testing? If you are referring to ACTUAL expenses as including an hourly rate for the instructor, then how much do YOU feel is profiting? I'd really like to know this dollar figure.=20 I don't believe anyone has paid ten million dollars for training nor would they, and I really doubt that anyone is charging $5000/hr for training, so if your post had a point, then maybe I missed it. Ron Galbraith I think the best part about this is that it's "nonprofit." The last place I think anyone should be profiting in is Lancair education and training and flight testing.=20 I'm sick and tired of the "what's your life worth?" - argument. With that argument, why not pay ten milllion dollars for training?=20 Because it's a stupid argument - that's why.Finally, we have a group truly interesting in safety, not money. No one has a problem paying for ACTUAL expenses when it comes to training, it's the $5000/hr approach that steers people away.Above all, hopefully this group will promote common sense, which is priceless. Matt --_----------=_1225716978294230 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Matt,
   You must have some bitter history with flight trainin= g that you've not shared.   Am I hearing you right that you don't= think flight instructors should charge for their services?  To quote = you "The last place I think any= one should be profiting in is Lancair education and training and fli= ght testing".  Do you really think that LOBO will be giving you free = instruction and flight testing?  If you are referring to ACTUAL expens= es as including an hourly rate for the instructor, then how much do YOU fee= l is profiting?   I'd really like to know this dollar figure.&nbs= p;
I don't believe anyone has paid ten million dollars for training nor= would they, and I really doubt that anyone is charging $5000/hr for traini= ng, so if your post had a point, then maybe I missed it.

Ron Galbrai= th

I think the best part about this is that it's "nonprofit."  The l= ast place I think anyone= should be profiting in is Lancair education and training and flight testin= g. 
I= 'm sick and tired of the "what's your life worth?" - argument.   With = that argument, why not pay ten milllion dollars for training?  Because= it's a stupid argument - that's why.
Finally, we have a group truly interesting in safety= , not money.  No one has a problem paying for ACTUAL expenses when it = comes to training, it's the $5000/hr approach that steers people away.
Above all, hopefull= y this group will promote common sense, which is priceless.
Matt

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