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From: "Paul Bricker" <pbricker@att.net>
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Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Training (Engine Out Practice)
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Guys,

While the fly the lower performance end of the Lancair line (ES w/ IO-550) I
have come to believe that planning for the worst will give me the best
chance. Ron Galbraith has trained me to use a low key position for forced
landing (downwind, 1500 AGL, 1000' from the threshold) and too aim to land
1000' feet from the threshold. Then the surprises from misjudging the wind,
etc. can be accommidated. Running out of energy during engine out practice
can only mean you need to keep practicing.

Paul Bricker
N63PB

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Kennedy (by way of Jeffrey Liegner, MD)
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:52 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Training (Engine Out Practice)

There's another fly in the ointment here. I've had very good luck 
with my practice engine out work (fixed pitch prop, engine in idle), 
but not perfect. I've always gotten to a landable spot, but several 
times I've blown the final pattern and had to add power to make a 
landing. Every case is a little different: different landing surface 
length; different winds; different starting altitude. It's obvious to 
me that practice is more of a factor than knowing precisely what your 
glide ratio is. I can tell straight away, without involving too many 
brain cells, whether my plane is going to reach a given spot. I do 
the math, just to add confidence, but if I set speed and see where 
the plane is going always works. My most consistant problem has been 
the urge to land at the beginning of the runway instead of a third or 
so down, and then running out of energy.

Just my thoughts -- hope it adds to the discussion.


Bill Kennedy
N42BK

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