X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:21:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc1-s15.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.87] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3048220 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:55:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.87; envelope-from=gt_phantom@hotmail.com Received: from hotmail.com ([10.12.232.166]) by bay0-omc1-s15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:54:45 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:54:45 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Received: from 24.248.74.254 by COL0-DAV28.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:54:44 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [24.248.74.254] X-Originating-Email: [gt_phantom@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gt_phantom@hotmail.com From: "GT-Phantom" X-Original-To: References: Subject: RE: Snake Oil? X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:54:43 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <002e01c8f24b$d203ea00$27263e0a@thunderlap> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8F22A.4AF493F0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjySo5cnBlWDNThRjmdaqX8erEKpgAAKnOQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2008 13:54:45.0172 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2B6BF40:01C8F24B] X-Original-Return-Path: gt_phantom@hotmail.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8F22A.4AF493F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've spoken with these folks and even signed a non-disclosure. It works, and they are building their first pilot plant to create about 1000 gallons per day. It requires Ethanol, which is converted in the process to an AvGas equivalent with zero lead / zero sulphur. It will be a few years before enough is produced to significantly impact the market. Interestingly, there are at least 3 other firms I know of who have gene-spliced bacteria which eat garbage and poop petroleum. Again, they are only in low-rate production. http://www.ls9.com/ http://bellbioenergy.com/ http://www.amyrisbiotech.com/news_101206.html All convert some form of vegetable matter to petroleum-analogs. It isn't magic, but required that fuel prices be high enough to make worthwhile. Cheers, Bill _____ From: Kevin Stallard [mailto:Kevin@arilabs.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 22:14 To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Snake Oil? http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view &newsId=20080505005358&newsLang=en There seems to be a company that claims a 100LL drop in replacement. They have to be full of crap. If there was such a product, and it was true, why would't they be billionairs by now? Kevin ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C8F22A.4AF493F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've=20 spoken with these folks and even signed a = non-disclosure.

It=20 works, and they are building their first pilot plant to create about = 1000=20 gallons per day.

It=20 requires Ethanol, which is converted in the process to an AvGas = equivalent with=20 zero lead / zero sulphur.

It=20 will be a few years before enough is produced to significantly impact = the=20 market.

Interestingly, there are at least 3 other = firms I know=20 of who have gene-spliced bacteria which eat garbage and poop = petroleum. =20 Again, they are only in low-rate production.

http://www.ls9.com/

http://bellbioenergy.com/

http://www.amyrisb= iotech.com/news_101206.html

All=20 convert some form of vegetable matter to = petroleum-analogs.

It=20 isn't magic, but required that fuel prices be high enough to make=20 worthwhile.

Cheers,

Bill

From: Kevin Stallard = [mailto:Kevin@arilabs.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 22:14
To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Snake Oil?

http://www.businesswi= re.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=3Dnews_view&newsId=3D20080505005= 358&newsLang=3Den

There seems to be a = company that=20 claims a 100LL drop in replacement.

They have to be full of = crap. =20 If there was such a product, and it was true, why would’t they be = billionairs by=20 now?

Kevin

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