Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #47968
From: Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com>
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Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Builders/owners support
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:00:28 -0400
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Bill,

I believe you are confusing parts and planes.  The discussion was about parts; availability and prices, not the final cost of a fully assembled plane.  If builders pay themselves no more than minimum wage, the kit built plane MIGHT be cheaper than a Cessna, but there is no doubt that it'll blow its ailerons off.  The big price difference is when you buy replacement parts.

Chuck Jensen


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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of
Bill Bradburry
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:34 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Builders/owners support


What makes you think that Lancair is not charging the same type prices as
the spam cans?  They are only providing the parts in a kit!  Cessna puts it
together for you and supplies the engine and avionics as well!
Don't get me wrong, I am not supporting spam cans...But don't start crying
in your beer about how cheap Lancair parts are!

Bill B

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Chuck
Jensen
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:04 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Builders/owners support

Of course, if Lancair charged the same type prices as Cessna does for it's
legacy parts, they could likely support early models forever
too...especially if they're producing the same product for 40 years as Cessa
has.  I suspect there'd be a hue-n-cry if Lancair, Vans, Velocity started
charging Cessna/Piper type prices, so some compromise has to be made.

If parts availability for the next 30 years is of utmost importance to
someone, then by all means, they should buy a doggy Cessna.  If you want
faster, better, cheaper, then difficulty finding some parts-n-pieces 10 or
20 years later may just be part of the gig.

Chuck Jensen


-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of
es39wg@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:39 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Builders/owners support



Long story short -- buy a IV kit even if it is discontinued (or about to
be).  The Lancair kits are great products, but nobody can stay in business
stocking *all* of the parts for kits that have not been sold for 20 years.
(Can you get parts for a Pinto from Ford anymore?)  But protect yourself and
get *everything* that you can't buy from Vans or Aircraf Spruce at the same
time.

- Rob Wolf

That is not exactly true.  Cessna is still supporting every model they ever
built.
I was at the 80th anniversary celebration of Cessna in June of  '07.  When
the discussion turned to support for the Cardinal which was only built from
1968 through 1978.  The question of replacement parts came up.  They
informed us (about 100 of us in the meeting at the time) that they do in
fact support all their prior models.  Granted some parts may have to be
manufactured to meet our needs and some things like shimmy dampers can be
quite expensive, they will make them if they don't still have them in stock.

BTW, they are having a 40th anniversary celebration of the Cardinal in
Wichita in September.  I can't make that event even though I own both a FG
and an RG Cardinal as well as a TR182 and part owner of a Lancair ES.  I am
having back surgery in August.  If Rob is not a Cessna owner I am not
surprised he would not be aware of that fact.  Actually Cessna owners who
did not attend the seminar might not be aware.
duane 39WG

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