X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:06:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta9.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.199] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTP id 2874574 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:34:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.199; envelope-from=super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com Received: from Laptop ([74.75.176.139]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20080427213520.RXSI26458.mta9.adelphia.net@Laptop> for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:35:20 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <4471209CD2E945D3ADFFBF8F04BB3E80@Laptop> From: "Bill Wade" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] Escape X-Original-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:33:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C8A88C.D009CC50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C8A88C.D009CC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When working with E-glass I've used a fine-tooth hacksaw blade snipped = to a point, with a duct tape handle. It's useful for making piercing = cuts in the center of a panel during construction and I think it'd be = equally useful as an escape tool. For carbon I'd suggest a carbide grit hacksaw blade, ie 'Remgrit'. I = tried one just holding it in my hand on a piece of carbon skin. It was = able to make a piercing cut without too much difficulty. Once through it = cuts well. A regular hacksaw blade slipped around and quickly dulled. = The teeth also tended to catch on the relatively thin skin. The Remgrit = also cuts carbon/honeycomb sections easily. Loew's sells a handle that = accepts hacksaw blades and reciprocating saw blades. A recip Remgrit = blade in one of those along with a duct taped Remgrit hacksaw blade = might make a good escape set. Looking at the IV-P interior, I think the best escape tool might be a = cell phone to get the fire department as quickly as possible. My first = thought would be to cut around a rear window but I think it'd be very = slow going because of all the reinforcement. Other models might have = different possibilities. I wonder if one of those windows could be smashed from the inside as = there wouldn't be much room to swing anything. It occurs to me that a = hatchet might rebound with possibly nasty consequences- that might be = something to consider when testing. -Bill Wade ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C8A88C.D009CC50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  When working = with E-glass I've=20 used a fine-tooth hacksaw blade snipped to a point, with a duct tape = handle.=20 It's useful for making piercing cuts in the center of a panel during=20 construction and I think it'd be equally useful as an escape = tool.
 
  For carbon I'd suggest = a carbide=20 grit hacksaw blade, ie 'Remgrit'. I tried one just holding it in my hand = on a=20 piece of carbon skin. It was able to make a piercing cut without too = much=20 difficulty. Once through it cuts well.  A regular hacksaw blade = slipped=20 around and quickly dulled. The teeth also tended to catch on the = relatively thin=20 skin. The Remgrit also cuts carbon/honeycomb sections easily. = Loew's sells=20 a handle that accepts hacksaw blades and reciprocating saw blades. A = recip=20 Remgrit blade in one of those along with a duct taped Remgrit hacksaw=20 blade might make a good escape set.
 
  Looking at the IV-P interior, I = think the=20 best escape tool might be a cell phone to get the fire department as = quickly as=20 possible. My first thought would be to cut around a rear = window=20 but I think it'd be very slow going because of all the reinforcement. = Other=20 models might have different possibilities.
 
 I wonder if one of those windows = could be=20 smashed from the inside as there wouldn't be much room to = swing=20 anything. It occurs to me that a hatchet might rebound with = possibly=20 nasty consequences- that might be something to consider=20 when testing.
   -Bill Wade
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