X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:06:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.188] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTPS id 2875197 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:31:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.188; envelope-from=fredmoreno@optusnet.com.au Received: from fred ([202.139.5.198]) (authenticated sender fredmoreno) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m3SCUCXa010269 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:30:22 +1000 From: "Fred Moreno" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mail" Subject: FW: Intake for IO550 X-Original-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:30:15 +0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <003701c8a92b$a4dd17e0$c6058bca@fred> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcipF78NdFMh1upcRY2QbVT3s078/gAEmEJA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Hamid asked: Do you have a source for heated air? No. =20 But I put both the air filter and the alternate air inlet behind the = spinner and not in the main flow entering the cowl inlets so that super cooled droplets will be separated inertially in much the same way that = turboprops use inertial separators for the same reason. The droplets are unable to make the quick 90 degree turn to enter either the filter or alternate = air inlet, and are carried aft to be deposited on the intake manifold tubes (where they will make ice) or cylinder heads and cylinders (where they = will melt and drain downward). =20 Being fuel injected, carb ice is not an issue.=20 Ice crystals from cirriform clouds could be an issue for the air filter, blocking air flow like a thick layer of dust. I know it was for my = TR-182 when flying high in the winter. Snow was not a problem for the air = filter as it was apparently unable to enter the NACA scoop on the side of the = cowl that fed induction air to the air filter. =20 The alternate air inlet I have now permits the filter to be bypassed and = the engine will happily swallow small ice crystals (and snow flakes as = well, I expect) with no problems if they are able to negotiate that tight bend. However, being normally aspirated, I very much doubt that I will ever = climb to cirrus clouds in this airplane. =20 Fred -----Original Message----- From: Hamid Wasti [mailto:hwasti@lm50.com]=20 Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 4:33 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] FW: Intake for IO550 Fred Moreno wrote: > The attached pictures show the induction system I built for the IO-550 = in my > Lancair IV. =20 Do you have a source for heated air? How will the system handle an=20 unplanned icing encounter? Both the Mooney and the Baron (two systems I=20 am most familiar with) have alternate sources that draw warmed air from=20 the engine compartment. Regards, Hamid