Return-Path: Received: from postoffice.mr.net ([137.192.180.5]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:46:24 -0500 Received: by postoffice.mr.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00295 at Sun, 6 Feb 2000 16:51:42 -0600 (CST) SMTP "HELO" = mr.net But _really_ from ply21-53.nas.mr.net [137.192.63.53] SMTP "MAIL FROM" = msmith1@mr.net SMTP "RCPT TO" = Message-ID: <389DF98D.44E14335@mr.net> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 16:45:33 -0600 From: Michael D Smith To: "lancair.list@olsusa.com" Subject: Wingtip Extension X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I talked to Dick Olson again. He is the guy developing the deice system for the IV wing. They plan to test it in March and make it available shortly thereafter. The boots are going to be 30/1000 thick, and the length is yet to be determined. They anticipate three sections of boots for the wing and probably two for the horizontal stab. The reason is so a bird strike doesn't require total replacement. I did not ask about the vertical stabilizer. Not sure what they plan there. The weight with the better capacitors is going to be about 27 pounds, so I am sold. Ice seems to be a problem here, and I fly a lot in the winter. If we didn't fly with every forecast of ice, we might as well hang it up for 6 months. In my non-deiced 310, I never flew in known ice, but sometimes you fly over or about areas that just weren't forecast yet the worry was there. In fact, about ten days ago, a non-deiced 310, not mine, started an approach to my airport. Tops at 4500, clear above, ceiling 500 and 2, with plus 2C at 5000 and -4C at the surface. Liquid drops were seen entering the clouds, with rapid change to swooshing noise followed by chunks flying off the prop. Airport elevation 920. Picked up over 2 inches in the less than five minutes, and rearranged the airport light system. New dimension for Pilot controlled lighting. My friend in his known ice Baron barely kept up with it 10 minutes later. None of this was forecast. Hence the ice scenario plays out a lot here. The question I have for this community is the issue of wing tips. I have installed landing lights in the leading edge of the wing just outboard of the tank; at the time that space seemed ideal for the low profile Whelen lights. Now without the deice system, I assume the boots will span the entire length of the leading edge. So I guess I have to move the lights. I am wondering rather than tossing the wing tips and putting winglets, which this forum said really don't make that much difference, can I simply lengthen the current wing tips enough to fit the lights (about four inches) without consequence? Do any of you have any objections to this approach? It would increase the wing by about two square feet, and the winglets do a lot more than that. Does anyone have ideas how to best accomplish that? Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>