X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:15:18 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2491264 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:29:32 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.102; envelope-from=Lancair1@bellsouth.net Received: from p4desktop (unknown[74.235.168.249]) by bellsouth.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20071116112853H0200t5iave>; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:28:53 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.235.168.249] From: "Douglas W. Johnson, MD" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Sam Alert! X-Original-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:28:51 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <00ec01c82843$dd495670$6501a8c0@p4desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C82819.F4734E70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acgn67SNki7xOAz1TQKd4yHruJfJ9wAWBpsQ In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C82819.F4734E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps the FBI might be interested? Douglas W. Johnson _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of john olszewski Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:58 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Sam Alert! Yes, had the same guy with the same bs story contact me regarding my Lancair in the Trade-a-plane. Insistent sob! The coresspondence stopped immediately after I had asked if he was from Nigeria. lol That's where a lot of these scams originate. There was even a show on TV about these scammers. Jim Cameron wrote: As some of you may know, I have my Legacy up for sale. The internet ad appeared about a week or ten days ago, and the print edition is probably hitting mailboxes about now. I've had the most peculiar e-mail correspondence over the plane, and wondered if anyone else has had similar experience. The e-mails came from a man who did not identify himself as to state or country. The English was fractured, in an odd way, and one of the e-mails had a quickie ad from an ISP in Spanish across the bottom. At various times he referred to himself as attending a WHO conference in the U.K., or an official about to be transferred to "western Europe." In another e-mail he alluded to shipping the plane to Greece. Anyway, he said he wanted to buy the plane as a birthday present for his wife (!); He didn't want to inspect it personally, and declined to designate anyone else to do so. He inquired in various ways about information for wire transfer payment. Later, he tried to outline some sort of payment scheme that involved sending me an odd amount, about 60% of my asking price, then having me keep 20% and transfer the rest to some "shipping company." The rest of the payment would come later. All this lacked was some reference to moving money out of Nigeria. I can't put a finger on exactly what sort of scam was going to be involved, but it smelled really bad. Was he just "phishing," trying to get my bank info? Or maybe laundering money by having me pass it through to someone? Finally, I sent him an e-mail explaining how it was going to work: He had to inspect the airplane and all the documents, or delegate someone to do it. I would require full payment by cashier's check prior to signing over the airplane. I suggested he might want to use AOPA's escrow service. Never heard from him again. Today, I'm wondering if I have another one starting up. I got an e-mail from someone with slightly fractured grammar, saying he needed a "private seller." Can anyone think of a legitimate reason why one would need to buy an airplane from a "private seller?" Does he mean a dumb seller? As a late, good friend of mine used to say, I may have been born at night, but not last night. Jim Cameron Boerne, TX Legacy N132X -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html _____ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C82819.F4734E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Perhaps the FBI might be = interested?
 

Douglas W. Johnson


From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of john=20 olszewski
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:58 = PM
To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Sam=20 Alert!

Yes, had the same guy with the same bs story contact me = regarding my=20 Lancair in the Trade-a-plane. Insistent sob! The coresspondence stopped=20 immediately after I had asked if he was from Nigeria. lol That's where a = lot of=20 these scams originate. There was even a show on TV about these=20 scammers.

Jim Cameron <toucan@Satx.rr.com> = wrote:=20
As=20 some of you may know, I have my Legacy up for sale. The internet =
ad=20 appeared about a week or ten days ago, and the print edition is =
probably=20 hitting mailboxes about now. I've had the most peculiar e-mail=20
correspondence over the plane, and wondered if anyone else has had =
similar experience.
The e-mails came from a man who did not = identify=20 himself as to state
or country. The English was fractured, in an = odd way,=20 and one of the
e-mails had a quickie ad from an ISP in Spanish = across the=20 bottom. At
various times he referred to himself as attending a WHO = conference in
the U.K., or an official about to be transferred to = "western=20 Europe."
In another e-mail he alluded to shipping the plane to = Greece.=20 Anyway,
he said he wanted to buy the plane as a birthday present = for his=20 wife
(!); He didn't want to inspect it personally, and declined to = designate
anyone else to do so. He inquired in various ways about=20 information for
wire transfer payment. Later, he tried to outline = some=20 sort of payment
scheme that involved sending me an odd amount, = about 60%=20 of my asking
price, then having me keep 20% and transfer the rest = to some=20 "shipping
company." The rest of the payment would come = later.
All this=20 lacked was some reference to moving money out of Nigeria.
I can't = put a=20 finger on exactly what sort of scam was going to be
involved, but = it=20 smelled really bad. Was he just "phishing," trying to
get my bank = info? Or=20 maybe laundering money by having me pass it
through to=20 someone?
Finally, I sent him an e-mail explaining how it was going = to work:=20
He had to inspect the airplane and all the documents, or delegate=20
someone to do it. I would require full payment by cashier's check = prior=20
to signing over the airplane. I suggested he might want to use = AOPA's=20
escrow service. Never heard from him again.

Today, I'm = wondering if=20 I have another one starting up. I got an
e-mail from someone with = slightly=20 fractured grammar, saying he needed a
"private seller." Can anyone = think=20 of a legitimate reason why one would
need to buy an airplane from = a=20 "private seller?" Does he mean a dumb
seller?

As a late, = good=20 friend of mine used to say, I may have been born at
night, but not = last=20 night.

Jim Cameron
Boerne, TX
Legacy = N132X

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