X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [143.85.199.19] (HELO ddcoavsgwhub003.conus.army.mil) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c2) with ESMTP id 2480863 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:36:46 -0500 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=143.85.199.19; envelope-from=james.gigliotti@us.army.mil X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAMcDPEePUvglpWdsb2JhbACPAAEBAQECBQoRGIEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,421,1188777600"; d="scan'208";a="6574102" Received: from unknown (HELO DDCOBH110HUB006.dahq.ds.army.mil) ([143.82.248.37]) by ddcoavsgwhub003.conus.army.mil with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 16:34:59 +0000 Received: from RUCKBH011000002.nase.ds.army.mil ([155.147.252.92]) by DDCOBH110HUB006.dahq.ds.army.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:35:44 -0500 Received: from RUCKBE011C8MB03.nase.ds.army.mil ([155.147.252.34]) by RUCKBH011000002.nase.ds.army.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:35:43 -0600 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Disposition-Notification-To: "Gigliotti, James M CTR USA" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Sam Alert! X-Original-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:35:34 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <0BE144A47F414941A90C3591B00A79C30F49B9@RUCKBE011C8MB03.nase.ds.army.mil> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Sam Alert! Thread-Index: AcgnpYuJXUBcFqu0QvKmzfOkRJ4x1A== References: From: "Gigliotti, James M CTR USA" X-Original-To: "Jim Cameron" , X-Original-Return-Path: james.gigliotti@us.army.mil X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2007 16:35:43.0673 (UTC) FILETIME=[910D8A90:01C827A5] This is an absolute scam, called the "Overpayment" scam. You will make arrangements, and he will send you what will pass as a legitimate certified cashiers check. You will deposit it- after a few days your bank will credit your account for the value of the check. But this will certainly happen BEFORE the bogus check actually gets back to where it supposedly originated from. Meanwhile, the victim- knowing this is all strange but feeling confident because the money appears in his account, will send the agreed upon portion to a third party for the "inspection" or whatever other reason the scam artist comes up with. Of course your check will be real. It may be up to 6 months before you are notified by the bank that the check you deposited from the scammer was bogus, and YOU will be liable for the entire amount! Check www.fakechecks.org, and feel free to call me at the number below. Jim. James M. Gigliotti=20 Support Contractor (Camber) Concepts & Requirements Directorate Requirements Determination Division, AGSE Fort Rucker, AL 36322=20 Commercial (334) 255-1459=20 DSN 558, FAX 1008=20 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Cameron [mailto:toucan@Satx.rr.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:38 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Sam Alert! As some of you may know, I have my Legacy up for sale. The internet ad appeared about a week or ten days ago, and the print edition is probably hitting mailboxes about now. I've had the most peculiar e-mail correspondence over the plane, and wondered if anyone else has had similar experience. The e-mails came from a man who did not identify himself as to state or country. The English was fractured, in an odd way, and one of the e-mails had a quickie ad from an ISP in Spanish across the bottom. At various times he referred to himself as attending a WHO conference in the U.K., or an official about to be transferred to "western Europe." =20 In another e-mail he alluded to shipping the plane to Greece. Anyway, he said he wanted to buy the plane as a birthday present for his wife (!); He didn't want to inspect it personally, and declined to designate anyone else to do so. He inquired in various ways about information for wire transfer payment. Later, he tried to outline some sort of payment scheme that involved sending me an odd amount, about 60% of my asking price, then having me keep 20% and transfer the rest to some "shipping company." The rest of the payment would come later. All this lacked was some reference to moving money out of Nigeria. =20 I can't put a finger on exactly what sort of scam was going to be involved, but it smelled really bad. Was he just "phishing," trying to get my bank info? Or maybe laundering money by having me pass it through to someone? Finally, I sent him an e-mail explaining how it was going to work: =20 He had to inspect the airplane and all the documents, or delegate someone to do it. I would require full payment by cashier's check prior to signing over the airplane. I suggested he might want to use AOPA's escrow service. Never heard from him again. Today, I'm wondering if I have another one starting up. I got an e-mail from someone with slightly fractured grammar, saying he needed a "private seller." Can anyone think of a legitimate reason why one would need to buy an airplane from a "private seller?" Does he mean a dumb seller? As a late, good friend of mine used to say, I may have been born at night, but not last night. Jim Cameron Boerne, TX Legacy N132X