Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #44870
From: sbej <sbej@verizon.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Permanant Header Tank
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:08:56 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Thanks all for responding. I will re-attempt the hinge method.   One more question:
Can I use 1/8" rivets spaced every 1" rather than the 3/16" rivets every 2" they use in the plans?  I had a tough time smashing those and I didn't trust they were smashed enough.  1/8" rivets with less spacing seems like I could get a much better finished rivet job. 
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Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Permanant Header Tank

Brian,
 
Don't feel bad - I had to do mine 3 times.  First time was just using the forward deck before I added the header tank.  Fit great (which meant something was bound to go wrong).  My header tank support obviously had a twist, because after I bonded the header tank to the forward deck, no amount (or combination) of heat, pulling with tie-down straps, or cursing would get that assembly to fit.  Drilled out the rivets in the forward deck, filled in the holes, realigned everything (fit wasn't as good as the first time, but nothing some trimming and micro wouldn't fix).  Second time, some epoxy or flox from the pad behind the hinge got into the hinge joints, the hinge pins wouldn't pull out, and I essentialy had a permanently bonded header tank, only that wasn't my plan.  Snapped the hinges off the forward deck, somehow separated the upper and lower hinge halves, and tried again, this time with a liberally lubricated hinge pin as well as duct tape protecting the hinge joint.
 
The point of this story is:  You've got at least two more tries before you can claim "Worst Header Tank Attachment Experience".
 
I've been at it with this kit for (this number can't be right) just over 4000 hours and 10 years, and I can sympathize with the desire to just get the part finished, but everybody else has pretty much covered why you wouldn't want to do this.  If those hinges are kicking your butt, use the screw method.  I saw a beautiful LNC2 at Oshkosh a few years ago that had a screwed-on header tank (naturally, AFTER I went through all that with the hinges).  Think about this:  If you sprung a leak between the header tank and the forward deck on the forward side of your header tank, what would you do?
 
Gary Fitzgerald
LNC2 extra-slow build ~70%
engine: TBD
St. Charles, MO
 
----- Original Message -----
 
Anyone have good reasoning as to why I shouldn't permanantly bond my header tank on?  I tried the hinge method and the fit with the cowling was terrible so I had to take the entire thing apart today.
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