X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:38:06 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman@cablespeed.com> Received: from mxo5.broadbandsupport.net ([209.55.3.85] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2377288 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:03:05 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.55.3.85; envelope-from=2thman@cablespeed.com X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman@cablespeed.com> Received: from [66.235.44.170] ([66.235.44.170:65229] helo=Home) by mxo5.broadbandsupport.net (ecelerity 2.1.1.23 r(18304)) with ESMTP id 6E/B2-28005-88F7B074 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:18:01 -0400 From: "John Barrett" <2thman@cablespeed.com> X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Backup DG equivalent X-Original-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:02:17 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <044401c80a7d$00e53430$02af9c90$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgKfQBRSRofcfGhRa243kAJUTdi7w== Content-Language: en-us For the enlightenment of all vis a vis the Tru Trak ADI, I spoke with = Lucas of Tru Trak this afternoon. First of all he told me the =93pitch=94 = indication, as was mentioned before in this thread, is not pitch at all, but rather = VSI. Therefore if the aircraft is losing altitude, the indicator will be = expected to show accurate roll information, but will look as if the nose of the aircraft is below horizontal when in fact you could be nose up. I would consider this to be a very dangerous situation at any time I needed to = use the instrument. Just consider the unpleasant event you could face when = your Cheltons or other MFD=92s all crap out while you=92re in IMC and there = is lots of turbulence. First you have to reorient your scan to instruments that = you only use in practice, and then you have to overcome your well ingrained training that says this thing that looks like an attitude indicator is = NOT. While your brain is assimilating this disparity between past learning = and reality, precious seconds are going by and the turbulence has caused = your aircraft attitude to change to any position other than wings level and = nose level =96 probably to be swinging past those desirable positions = somewhat erratically. =20 I think it=92s a shame this very nice instrument has what I think is a = fatal flaw. It=92s too bad Tru Trak put an electronic roll gyro in this = thing, but didn=92t think a pitch gyro was necessary. I sincerely hope they=92ll = rethink the concept and will correct this discrepancy. I will look forward to buying one to complement my Tru Trak autopilot if they do. =20 By the way, the heading indication is totally GPS dependent and does not derive information from the gyro or gyros that would allow it to keep providing heading data if GPS is lost. That would be another = improvement if it could use GPS to stabilize and correct a gyro track, which would = continue to function albeit with less accuracy when the GPS is lost. My 2 cents. Regards, John Barrett =20 As a backup direction indicator on my Legacy, which also has a=20 2-screen Chelton EFIS system, I'm using the 2-1/4" ADI from Tru-Trak. =20 It's a bit of an odd critter, but if you buy it with the GPS and backup=20 battery options, it does give a heading (track, actually) indication=20 that's completely independent of your plane's electrical system. It=20 also provides pitch and bank info. Hard to find equivalent info from=20 2-1/4" instruments without spending a fortune. Jim Cameron Legacy N132X No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.5/1058 - Release Date: = 10/8/2007 4:54 PM =20