X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:43:46 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from global.delionsden.com ([66.150.29.112] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTPS id 2362394 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:22:51 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.150.29.112; envelope-from=n103md@yahoo.com Received: from bmackey by global.delionsden.com with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IcOx7-00089b-Rf for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:21:05 -0400 Received: from 69.12.132.145 ([69.12.132.145]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user bmackey) by www.bmackey.com with HTTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:21:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <2393.69.12.132.145.1191259265.squirrel@www.bmackey.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Drag coefficient From: "bob mackey" X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - global.delionsden.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32015 2012] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - yahoo.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Here's another data point... Lancair 235/O-320 Aymar-DeMuth 64x78 fixed pitch, wood prop I have measured the glide ratio on several occasions, and found it be 500 feet per nautical mile at 100 kias. That is mixture shutoff, throttle open to reduce pumping losses, prop spinning. With a 1500 lb gross weight, the drag at 100 kias is (500 ft / nm) * 1500 lbf = 123 lbf Or in rational units: (152.4 m / 1851 m) * 6672 N = 549 N The equivalent parasite drag area, (CD=1) is given by Drag = C*A*((rho*v^2)/2), with the dynamic pressure (1600 N/m^2) in the parenthesis. I can't separate drag coefficient and area, because I haven't measured the area, but we don't really need to. The equivalent (total) drag area is: C*A = Drag / ((rho*v^2)/2) = 0.343 m^2 = 3.7 ft^2 Which is quite a bit greater than the ~1.6 that Paul Lipps sees in cruise. I'll take that to mean that the prop/engine drag is about 2.1 ft^2 equivalent drag area, assuming his airframe and mine are otherwise similar.