X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:15:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.213] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with SMTP id 2336948 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:57:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.198.213; envelope-from=gbfitz@swbell.net Received: (qmail 78604 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2007 05:56:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=swbell.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=sUzVM3b/fKy809oCq4Q0gLHq71+EV/o1b7V2EerEfi0MpHpTxeyGpD4osO0sChQxhkzwfzkdtaPwZEmRJRdRHR97aay/K2gRdEF2rLA22RxrOHErg0pOBiF8RfuyW1STYnU4lOO1+fz+cW/7pbqU2wVYHeMcOIQ4BsjvqtJtPEM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO eaglenest61) (gbfitz@swbell.net@70.130.139.201 with login) by smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2007 05:56:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 9.gBJ0gVM1nB7ZVFNpftnk_Bz_8pZjI4LceoE91LcyDQn2a5DfX0X2En_eKdHoe5Md3vmGgkisVADYqO1eqU9iwucqVVJh.FQMmHvxy1yM72OfNk6JF94Vr_LHhlN0yxrV3KKqlGAg-- X-Original-Message-ID: <005d01c7f9b8$5d6be800$4001a8c0@eaglenest61> From: "Gary Fitzgerald" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: [LML] Re: nut plate jig use and availability X-Original-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:54:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C7F98E.73F86780" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C7F98E.73F86780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, Yeah, you can pay $50 or so one of those nutplate jigs (in each size = you'll need), or you can make your own for free - just use an = appropriately sized screw or bolt and a few washers to hold the nutplate = in place, drill one rivet hole, stick a spare rivet in it to keep the = nutplate from rotating, and drill the other rivet hole. And you can = reuse it for all types of nutplates (trust me, you'll probably find = instances where you'll need different nutplates than those that came = with the kit)! I've used pop rivets in a few places to hold the nutplates, and they = hold up with no problem. I'm pretty sure I used the Cherry 100 deg. = countersunk rivets CCR264SS-3-x. Oh, by the way, if you use the nutplate card method (attaching the = nutplates to a 1/16" BID or phenolic "card", then attach the card to = whatever the nutplate was supposed to attach to using Hysol), it's a = heck of a lot easier to drill (and rivet, especially if you're using = solid rivets) if you make a whole card or strip of these and cut the = individual nutplates off after assembly (see the construction section of = Marv's website if this is confusing). Gary Fitzgerald LNC2 extra-slow build ~70% engine: TBD St. Charles, MO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: T Brand=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: [LML] nut plate jig use and availability=20 Would appreciate comments about nut plate jig use for 320 kit = construction. Also, whether or not pull-through rivets can be used to = anchor nut plates.=20 Tom Brand -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Make your little one a shining star! Shine on! ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C7F98E.73F86780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom,
 
Yeah, you can pay $50 or so one of = those=20 nutplate jigs (in each size you'll need), or you can make your own for = free -=20 just use an appropriately sized screw or bolt and a few washers to = hold the=20 nutplate in place, drill one rivet hole, stick a spare rivet in it to = keep the=20 nutplate from rotating, and drill the other rivet hole.  And = you can=20 reuse it for all types of nutplates (trust me, you'll probably find = instances where you'll need different nutplates than those that came = with the=20 kit)!
 
I've used pop rivets in a few places to hold the = nutplates, and they hold up with no problem.  I'm pretty sure I = used the=20 Cherry 100 deg. countersunk rivets CCR264SS-3-x.
 
Oh, by the way, if you use the nutplate card = method=20 (attaching the nutplates to a 1/16" BID or phenolic "card", then attach = the card=20 to whatever the nutplate was supposed to attach to using Hysol), =  it's a=20 heck of a lot easier to drill (and rivet, especially if you're using = solid=20 rivets) if you make a whole card or strip of these and cut the = individual=20 nutplates off after assembly (see the construction section of Marv's = website if=20 this is confusing).
 
Gary Fitzgerald
LNC2 extra-slow build = ~70%
engine:=20 TBD
St. Charles, MO
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 T Brand=20
Sent: Monday, September 17, = 2007 5:22=20 PM
Subject: [LML] nut plate jig = use and=20 availability

Would appreciate comments = about nut=20 plate jig use for 320 kit construction.  Also, whether or not=20 pull-through rivets  can be used to anchor nut plates. =

Tom = Brand

Make your little one a shining star! Shine=20 on! ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C7F98E.73F86780--