X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:55:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.190] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2311983 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:51:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.182.190; envelope-from=bakercdb@gmail.com Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d21so1466820nfb for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:50:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rhVq7JVmqA5Fpzv3G1XwGsfqgTmMsj/f7cYcNcm66IANlNaH8Ot/vAt63xQ7TOuodCYcIXjO9Yejm0YnnKbkoouzER++Iz4TQcxrTQF67Z2ytvFdPwaCjl/ZcToKbwODlb275hKSUlALL2aItZ5UNPi8lfTg7+Kv9CBcof/GHdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=phanU1eooAKFuo5RlYFcZUoXhaxcNl2L0yWW/o0jrD1+W0t1fUGewEj5vn40tLes8iDrM5+YwX4qreaDY+ehmiRT0IYm9eRTjmLxEIgOmhONKBbdske396g7y7miNKHzCHVg2VTZHWGohVLos6DmvqzOMXBY82KIvod08QQvg7A= Received: by 10.78.149.13 with SMTP id w13mr4729637hud.1188960655972; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.165.17 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:50:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <175557b90709041950l3671fe6bic8f2ccdfa8b0976e@mail.gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:50:55 -0400 From: "Clark Baker" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Carbon Fiber Flox In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30785_23039434.1188960655945" References: ------=_Part_30785_23039434.1188960655945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I understand that there are 3 Legacy RG kit options: -std kit (material amount of e-glass) -my "all carbon", as in ALL carbon (obviously must be layed up in the Philippines that way) - the Reno race model, which is all carbon, plus extra bids from the windows back to handle the extra HP and speed. On 9/4/07, Alan Adamson wrote: > > Clark, I'm curious of a couple of things. > > Are there now 3 RG kits? > > - The standard one that is carbon on the outside skins, but the main spars > and inside components are eglass (spar caps are still carbon) > - The carbon upgraded one for 9K - were you get what in carbon? I'm going > to assume the parts that are to be bonded in during the build. this would > include the center console? The load pads? the rear tunnel? I'm also going > to assume that the rear seatbacks, and bulkheads (firewall, etc) are still > eglass? > - Then the version that is *all* carbon, this includes all the spars, > ribs, bulkheads, etc plus the items above and they usually do the "reno > wrap" on this one (an extra wrap from the rear windows to the tail of 1 or 2 > bids), and last I heard, it's *way* more than 9K work of upgrade costs and > probably a significant lead time. > > As an aside, you can get milled carbon, but I suspect it's wickedly > expensive and I have no idea if it's as structural as flox. If you are > doing for weight reduction for as much flox as you'll use, I doubt it's > significant. > > Just curious. > Alan > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] *On Behalf Of > *Clark Baker > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:06 PM > *To:* lml@lancaironline.net > *Subject:* [LML] Carbon Fiber Flox > > > I will soon be starting my all carbon Legacy RG kit. After spending an > extra $9k to have all the components made in carbon fiber (the standard > Legacy RG kit has a material amount of e-glass), I started wondering if > there was a carbon fiber equivalent for the traditional flox (milled > cotton). There is a not insignificant amount of heavy flox in our aircraft. > > > Has anyone used a carbon fiber flox and have any comments, or know of any > suppliers? > > Regards, > Clark Baker > > LNC2 360, 775hrs > -- Clark Baker mobile: + 1 917 558 5567 home: + 1 646 964 4159 bakercdb@gmail.com ------=_Part_30785_23039434.1188960655945 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I understand that there are 3 Legacy RG kit options:
-std kit (material amount of e-glass)
-my "all carbon", as in ALL carbon (obviously must be layed up in the Philippines that way)
- the Reno race model, which is all carbon, plus extra bids from the windows back to handle the extra HP and speed.

 
On 9/4/07, Alan Adamson <aadamson@highrf.com> wrote:
Clark, I'm curious of a couple of things.
 
Are there now 3 RG kits?
 
- The standard one that is carbon on the outside skins, but the main spars and inside components are eglass (spar caps are still carbon)
- The carbon upgraded one for 9K - were you get what in carbon?  I'm going to assume the parts that are to be bonded in during the build. this would include the center console? The load pads? the rear tunnel?  I'm also going to assume that the rear seatbacks, and bulkheads (firewall, etc) are still eglass?
- Then the version that is *all* carbon, this includes all the spars, ribs, bulkheads, etc plus the items above and they usually do the "reno wrap" on this one (an extra wrap from the rear windows to the tail of 1 or 2 bids), and last I heard, it's *way* more than 9K work of upgrade costs and probably a significant lead time.
 
As an aside, you can get milled carbon, but I suspect it's wickedly expensive and I have no idea if it's as structural as flox.  If you are doing for weight reduction for as much flox as you'll use, I doubt it's significant.
 
Just curious.
Alan

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Clark Baker
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:06 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Carbon Fiber Flox

 
I will soon be starting my all carbon Legacy RG kit.  After spending an extra $9k to have all the components made in carbon fiber (the standard Legacy RG kit has a material amount of e-glass),  I started wondering if there was a carbon fiber equivalent for the traditional flox (milled cotton).  There is a not insignificant amount of heavy flox in our aircraft.
 
Has anyone used a carbon fiber flox and have any comments, or know of any suppliers?
 
Regards,
Clark Baker
 
LNC2 360, 775hrs



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