X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:39:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.63] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2270175 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:29:49 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.63; envelope-from=douglasbrunner@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XZiKzrofR9sh2Dy8FuKYVrUdJJ2cBdOKCzWWuOrV2h2jZqYpShMhhgD7OXGmt3ia; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [74.93.196.177] (helo=DFWK3391) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IMHo9-0007Ke-ID for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:29:13 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <001e01c7e161$12d477e0$1dd0a60a@DFWK3391> From: "Douglas Brunner" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Straight Shot article in SWA Spirit Magazine X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:29:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C7E13F.8A47D0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-ELNK-Trace: ad85a799c4f5de37c2eb1477c196d22294f5150ab1c16ac0c864d17e3813b99aa094b9a0fa09e9757aa43da9c9fa0b55350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 74.93.196.177 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C7E13F.8A47D0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Along the same lines, there is an interesting article in the Wall Street = Journal on Monday 8/13 about how the airlines use of smaller planes has = lead to increased congestion at a number of hubs, most notably = LaGuardia. Another way that the airlines have caused the problems that they now = wish to blame on GA. D. Brunner P.S. On a recent flight from Redmond to Baltimore (through Portland and = San Francisco) we had to spend the night in Portland because of = mechanical problems. We were also "ground stopped" on the re-route = through Chicago because of weather in Baltimore. Didn't see a single GA = plane at O'Hare but there sure was a line of commercial carriers and GA = didn't cause United's mechanical problems. Can't wait to be flying my Legacy! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: [LML] Straight Shot article in SWA Spirit Magazine Dear Mr. Kelly, As SWA Frequent Traveler and a General Aviation aircraft owner/ pilot = and a retired military aircrew I take great exception to SWA's recent = editorial printed in SWA Spirit Magazine. = http://spiritmag.com/2007_08/clickthis/08spolight.php The editorial is filled with many misrepresentations. Please set the = record straight.=20 Point #1: Airway congestion is a myth. The skies are not crowded. A = few big airports that serve the major airlines are overcrowded with = airline traffic. Hub congestion is a fact and is the airline industry's = making. Point to point navigation that frees aircraft from using ground = based navigation aids and its attendant airways has been around for a = long time. GPS has been around for over ten years. I file and fly GPS = direct almost every flight I make and I know your crews often ask for = "direct to destination" to cut flight times. General aviation got = onboard with GPS long before the airlines did. Delays experienced by = airlines are their own making. Hub and spoke operations constrict the = NAS system into a few major bottlenecks like O'Hare, Atlanta and New = York. These airports are generally avoided by general aviation users who = prefer smaller closer relievers. You can only fit so many airplanes onto = the same piece of concrete. Southwest knows that better than any other = airline. New airport construction is sadly lacking in this country. All = aviation users need to get onboard together and demand new airport = construction-- and not just at a few major hubs. Pont #2: The ATC system served all segments of aviation in 1970 as it = does today.=20 Point #3: The general aviation body is adamantly opposed to user fees. = User fees have all but killed GA in other parts of the world. User fees = are an invitation by one body to tax another into extinction. Be careful = what you wish for because when GA is dead, Southwest and the other = airlines will be training its own future pilots at a huge expense that = they currently do not fund.=20 Point #4: The airline industry as a whole should not be making = recommendations to Congress on how to fund the FAA until they as a whole = can put their own financial house in order. The taxpayer has been = underwriting the industry for years-- most recently with PBGC pension = fund bailouts, bankruptcy proceedings and 9/11 handouts. The industry as = a whole is the most poorly managed industry in America. Southwest = Airlines stands apart and above much of the problems generated by the = poorly led airlines and I am dismayed your good company would join ranks = with the rest.=20 Please set the record straight in Spirit magazine or I will take my = business elsewhere. Regards, William J. "Jeff" Edwards Chesterfield, Missouri -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C7E13F.8A47D0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Along the same lines, there is an interesting article in the Wall = Street=20 Journal on Monday 8/13 about how the airlines use of smaller planes has = lead to=20 increased congestion at a number of hubs, most notably LaGuardia.
 
Another way that the airlines have caused the problems that they = now wish=20 to blame on GA.
 
D. Brunner
 
P.S.  On a recent flight from Redmond to Baltimore (through = Portland=20 and San Francisco) we had to spend the night in Portland because of = mechanical=20 problems. We were also "ground stopped" on the re-route = through=20 Chicago because of weather in Baltimore.  Didn't see a = single GA=20 plane at O'Hare but there sure was a line of commercial = carriers and GA=20 didn't cause United's mechanical problems.
 
Can't wait to be flying my Legacy!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 VTAILJEFF@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 = 3:36=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Straight Shot = article in=20 SWA Spirit Magazine

Dear Mr. Kelly,
 
As SWA Frequent Traveler and a General Aviation aircraft owner/ = pilot and=20 a retired military aircrew I take great exception to SWA's recent = editorial=20 printed in SWA Spirit Magazine. http://spi= ritmag.com/2007_08/clickthis/08spolight.php
 
The editorial is filled with many misrepresentations. Please set = the=20 record straight.
 
Point #1: Airway congestion is a myth. The skies are not = crowded. A=20 few big airports that serve the major airlines are overcrowded with = airline=20 traffic. Hub congestion is a fact and is the airline = industry's=20 making.  Point to point navigation that frees aircraft from using = ground=20 based navigation aids and its attendant airways has been around for a = long=20 time. GPS has been around for over ten years. I file and fly GPS = direct almost=20 every flight I make and I know your crews often ask for "direct = to=20 destination" to cut flight times. General aviation got onboard = with GPS=20 long before the airlines did. Delays experienced by airlines are their = own=20 making. Hub and spoke operations constrict the NAS system into a few = major=20 bottlenecks like O'Hare, Atlanta and New York. These airports are = generally=20 avoided by general aviation users who prefer smaller closer relievers. = You can=20 only fit so many airplanes onto the same piece of concrete. Southwest = knows=20 that better than any other airline. New airport construction is sadly = lacking=20 in this country. All aviation users need to get onboard together and = demand=20 new airport construction-- and not just at a few major hubs.
 
Pont #2: The ATC system served all segments of aviation in 1970 = as it=20 does today.
 
Point #3: The general aviation body is adamantly opposed to user = fees.=20 User fees have all but killed GA in other parts of the world. User = fees are an=20 invitation by one body to tax another into extinction. Be careful what = you=20 wish for because when GA is dead,  Southwest and the other = airlines will=20 be training its own future pilots at a huge expense that they = currently do not=20 fund.
 
Point #4: The airline industry as a whole should not be = making=20 recommendations to Congress on how to fund the FAA until they as = a whole=20  can put their own financial house in order. The taxpayer has = been=20 underwriting the industry for years-- most recently with PBGC pension = fund=20 bailouts, bankruptcy proceedings and 9/11 handouts. The industry as a = whole is=20 the most poorly managed industry in America. Southwest Airlines stands = apart=20 and above much of the problems generated by the poorly = led airlines and I=20 am dismayed your good company would join ranks with the rest.
 
Please set the record straight in Spirit magazine or I will take = my=20 business elsewhere.
 
Regards,
 
William J. "Jeff" Edwards
Chesterfield, Missouri



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